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Cheers. I finally found something on another show.
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I know that Stefan did a video The Truth About the Native American Genocide but I was wondering if he'd done anything on the apparent plight of the Canadian Indians?
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Uhuh. They went east to the Caucasus where they became Caucasian and then some of them went west.
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You're not paying attention. The names evolved because they were what non-native speakers called the people. So, they would hear the name the people called themselves and "translate it" into their language often very approximately. Anyway, final word on this: Which is where I came in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes
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You're missing the point. This isn't a debate about the precise grammar and pronunciation of language and how it changes over time for native speakers. It is about how they are transmitted by non-speakers and so the transformations of sounds aren't going to be regular and follow laws as you seem to think. Nope. I meant to write diphthong because it was a joke.
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Uhuh? Ok, I bow to your superior knowledge of Hebrew. However, if you pronounce Issac and Jizchak you still get a sound bearing an uncanny resemblance to sac depending on who is making it. Chak/sak? Who cares? Perhaps you're overanalysing things? Similar points are made elsewhere regarding the origins of other famous names from history. Names are mispronounced and evolve over time. Foreigners don't have precise grammatical understanding of Hebrew, etc. and so people become known by many different variations of the same name but are still recognisably based on the original. As I've already said, it seems to me that there is and will be solid science based on genetics to show what the truth of the matter is so splitting dipthongs is probably irrelevant. P.S. Your complaint regarding the Ephraimites seems somewhat of a stretch. It seems to me he could easily be saying that they had difficulty pronouncing Schin too. As I said, perhaps you're overanalysing things?
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There are a lot of references to this sort of thing all over the web: http://www.hope-of-israel.org/saxonorigins.html You may consider it to be nonsense and I haven't followed up the references but it seems rather interesting to me that the genetics seem to point to some of this stuff being true assuming, of course, that the genetics are correct. It seems to me that this indicates that the silver bowls with the Star of David in the Sutton Hoo burial were ancient artifacts of the people and not some kind of imported bling.
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So the person buried at Sutton Hoo considered himself an Anglo Saxon or was he aware of a more ancient history? Our modern understanding is obviously very far removed from his. Societies were regularly torn apart and reformed. People literally did forget who they were. The modern example is what happened in Britain during the industrial revolution: millions moved from their ancestral villages to the industrial towns losing their sense of themselves and their history. That's why there's such great interest in genetics and genealogy. People are trying to rediscover their own lost histories. From other reading, it seems to me that even the Israelites may well be some kind of invention and they were really descendents of other equally well-known cultures who reinvented themselves transforming their ancient religion and culture into something completely new. It could be less a case of forgetting who they were than reinventing who they were for a multiplicity of reasons. We've turned over the study of our history to historians and archaeologists but these disciplines clearly have their own agendas. Personally, I'd rather investigate my own history than take what I'm given as fact. Your mileage may vary.
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Hey Guys, Sorry it's taken so long for me to look back in. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I think they should do the decent thing and pay back something. It's not as though they test for free. Thanks for that. Very interesting. I've been hoping to bump into someone with some knowledge of the field;). Funnily enough, I have just bought a test from FamilyTreeDNA for my paternal ancestry. My paternal haplogroup is apparently the same as the House of Bourbon so I thought I'd join the French ancestry group and get a discount. They told me just to get a 25 marker test (Y-DNA25). I've got the pack and am planning to scrape my cheeks in the next few days;). As I said, my overall ancestry is British/Irish at 95.3% but there's a few percent of French and Spanish and mongrel Western European too. I think there might be a little family secret on my father's side so I'm pretty intrigued at the prospect of finding out more there. At a later date I will probably do my maternal haplogroup too so thanks for the ancestry.com tip. I would like to do some more detailed analysis of my 23andMe data and started to look into it but gave up. I understand the basics of the paternal and maternal DNA analysis (I read Bryan Sykes' Blood of the Isles). I got a bit confused because the paternal haplogroup seems to have changed from R1b1b2a1a1* to R1b1a2a1a1*. I gather that this is marker R1b-U106 but I'm not really up to speed on the specifics. I initially thought my ancestry composition looked a bit boring but once I started to look into it the Ancient Israelite bit blew me away and suddenly it became rather interesting;). Archaeologists say it's an Anglo-Saxon boat. Is it? Even if it is, who were the Anglo-Saxons. Some say the derivation of Saxon is from Isaac's Sons so it seems to me that there's a strong possibility that they were just one of the other ten tribes. If you're looking for accepted history forget it. Those who control the history, control the people. From some other reading I've done I've seen evidence that some genuine British (Welsh actually) history was suppressed some time in the 18th century and has now been relegated to myth. I'm not an academic with a reputation riding on this stuff, I'm just a curious amateur going where the information takes me. Whether the evidence would satisfy an academic or not, I don't really care. I'm finding it all very intriguing. I'll post back when I know a bit more about my paternal DNA test. BTW, my maternal ancestry actually comes from a very small island of the coast of Ireland called Tory. It doesn't really get much more Irish than that;). I'd like to know how long my paternal ancestry has been in Scotland. I think there's possibly an English/Anglo Saxon connection there so we'll see.
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Hi Jaegar, Thanks for your reply. Of course, there are many possibilities. I've considered the possibility of my ancestor leaving Jerusalem when the 2nd temple was destroyed and ending up in Spain as I have a tiny bit of Spanish and French DNA. However, I don't think that, whoever my ancestor was, they were an isolated arrival on British/Irish shores. The confidence with which 23andMe assigns me 95% plus British/Irish ancestry mitigates against that I think. It's just a theory, of course, but I've read a lot of interesting sources which suggest that there really is some truth in the ten tribes story.
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There's a lot more to my theory than what I've said here. I've done a lot of reading, a lot of which sounds pretty fanciful but otherwise things which make a lot of sense. From my experience, not being mainstream is a positive recommendation;). Sure. The thing is that there will potentially have been several dozen haplogroups involved and many may not have been identified yet. Haplogroups have things called subclads which are further refinements of the haplogroups indicating closer kinship. Other things will muddy the waters such as unrelated groups merging, creating their own joint culture and effectively erasing their origins so there could be Assyrians who got together with Ancient Israelites and formed new cultures. There is even a theory, based on ancient documents, that the Spartans were Hebrews. I can't remember the precise details but I'm sure you can look them up. I acknowledge that I have no idea what relatively common means in this context but it suggests that, within the databases used by 23andMe, M1a is present at sufficient frequency to imply that maternal origins are there and have been for a long time. Rb1 is actually a paternal haplogroup and, it just so happens, is mine;). My subclad actually connects me to the Bourbons of France which is pretty interesting but I've not had a chance to chase it up. I do have a percent or two of French but that must be from a long time ago. Curiously enough, there's a bit of controversy over King Tut's paternal DNA. This was tested some time ago but, for some strange reason, the Egyptian authorities did not release the results. A commercial DNA testing company, extracted information from the documentary about the testing and says that it showed that King Tut was Rb1! That is actually very interesting too because there are clues leading from Egypt via Ancient Israel to the UK and the royal family. Not to mention the fact that a lot of Freemasonry traditions incorporate aspects of both ancient origins. Some might think that all of this stuff is pretty wild but it has its proponents out there and I think they're on to something. YMMV;). No problem. I think the jury is still out on the Celts/Hebrews hypothesis and it'll be a long before there's any resolution. There's a lot of stuff we don't know and the fact of the matter is that relatively few people have been tested and the databases are pretty small. I've read about the Hebrew/Gaelic connection and I'm aware of those who say that this is some kind of false cognate but it's easy to poo poo any theory like that. I'd be more impressed if they actually had a theory of their own but they don't appear to;). I'm a long way down the self-knowledge path. I have some earlier posts which didn't get a lot of traction describing how my supposed mental health issues were actually the result of a common blood disorder, i.e. anaemia. Have a search for them or it. I'm now at the point where I can muse about other things like my ancient origins;). I came pretty close to death about 5 years ago but was lucky enough to discover the real root cause of my life long ill-health just in the nick of time to save myself. I think an awful lot of people have similar issues resulting from similar root causes: the vast majority of us are nutritionally deficient but it affects some people mentally far more than others. I think most people are a little nuts mind you;). I know that a lot of people around here are into therapy but it won't cure a blood disorder or nutritional deficiency. I think that people really need to look into their physical health and nutrition. For me it was my route to self-knowledge and at the very least, we could all use being a little healthier so it's got to be worth a try.
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Well, no, I don't think so. As I said, M1a is apparently one of the less common Ashkenazi maternal haplogroups. However, I don't have the Ashkenazi markers so I don't think my M1a derives from a Jewish ancestor. For some reason, M1a is considered to be Ancient Israelite. I've not found the research from which this is derived. I think the ten tribes seem to have spread across the whole of Northern Europe. I have read a fair bit on this. So much that I can't remember what I read where. However, one thing that I recall is that the numbers of people left in Northern Israel plus those relocated to Babylon added together meant that there were hundreds of thousands unaccounted for who had gone elsewhere. One theory is that they became the Scythians. There is. I mentioned the Scottish Declaration of Independence. Another interesting little factoid is that there were bowls found in the Sutton Hoo boat burial featuring the Star of David. You can google that. This could mean that these boats burials weren't Saxon or English either. I think they may well have been Celtic or, in other words, Hebrew. I'm more interested in the genetic side of things and where that leads as it's more concrete. However, there are lots of interesting historical clues if you want to look for them. I've found loads but they're dotted around all over the place and in books I've bought. Yes, it's really interesting and very frustrating that I don't have much more information. It may be that it's relatively common in Ireland in some areas but not enough to have made it into the national stats. If the 95% is correct, that's pretty weird I would say. My grandmother was born on a very small island off the north of Ireland. Literally on the Celtic fringe. There is some interesting stuff about the Phoenicians escaping from Carthage and seeking refuge with their Irish "brothers", i.e. they saw the Irish as their Hebrew or Celtic brothers. The Phoenicians emerged from the Levant which is definitely in the ten tribes vicinity. Are you knowledgeable on the genetics side? I really need to do more reading and perhaps even head off to the British Library to try and dig some stuff up.
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Ok, so the bible is complete fiction. Fine. The genetics is complete fiction? Well, two of the tribes went to Babylon. The whole point is where the other ten tribes went. I'm not going to cut and paste stuff that people can find for themselves but there's very interesting historical evidence for where the missing ten tribes went. There is a fair amount of conflicting theories but if the genetics lines up with some of them then there's something worth considering.
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P.S. It seems that the Assyrians have been found to be genetically homogenous with the other peoples of the region: A 2008 study on the genetics of "old ethnic groups in Mesopotamia," including 340 subjects from seven ethnic communities ("Assyrian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Armenian, Turkmen, the Arab peoples in Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait") found that Assyrians were homogeneous with respect to all other ethnic groups sampled in the study, regardless of religious affiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people So it's not really possible to say where they went. They are, effectively, still there in the mix of similar populations.
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M1a is just one of the haplogroups associated with the Ancient Israelites. There are others but I've not paid them any attention as they don't apply to me. As I said above, my reasoning for my mtDNA not being an outlier is that 23andMe gives my ancestry as more than 95% British Irish. Given that, I would say that there must be substantial evidence of a significant distribution of my mtDNA in the British/Irish population. Obviously, I don't know the magnitude of this distribution. I did read an interesting book Blood of the Isles by Bryan Sykes in which he identifies the main ancestral lineages in the UK. Unfortunately, he doesn't relate these lineages to the now accepted haplogroup designations. I've considered getting my DNA tested by his company but it's quite a bit more expensive than 23andMe. Interestingly, there is evidence that the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians ended up in Ireland and they were related to the Ancient Israelites too. My maternal ancestry derives from one of the small islands off Ireland which is considered to be part of the Celtic fringe stretching from Spain up the west coast of France to the UK. Thanks for the article. I've seen it before. It's all very interesting. I think there is rather a lot of evidence in fact and my own DNA evidence points to the history. albeit far from mainstream, being correct. The Old Testament is in large part a huge family tree. Whether you think there's anything in it, it's rather detailed for it to be complete nonsense. There is historical evidence for the paths taken by some of the tribes after they left their ancestral homeland so I don't think it's a complete fairy story.
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Yes. Theoretically, the Irish are also supposed to be descended from the tribe of Dan. There are a lot of theories tracing the etymology of various names, e.g. the Scythians became the Cymru or the Welsh. There are so many contradictory stories too that it's easy to dismiss them all as rubbish. However, when something concrete like genetics seems to support some of the stories at least in part then I think there may be something to them after all. I'm getting the impression that some of this history has been suppressed and there is actually a lot of information in dusty archives around Europe and elsewhere confirming it.
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I just wanted to present my theory regarding race, genetics and intelligence because I may be party to some rare knowledge which I came about as a result of getting my genetics mapped by 23andMe a few years ago. I was rather astonished when I got my results back to discover that my maternal haplogroup, i.e. based on my mitochondrial DNA this was the population from I was descended via my mother, turned out to be M1a which I discovered was possibly Ancient Israelite. I am of Scots/Irish descent and so this was a huge surprise. Indeed, according to 23andMe, my DNA is more than 95% British and Irish which would tend to suggest that my maternal haplogroup wasn't an outlier and must be relatively common among various populations of the UK. A little while later, while attempting to make sense of my maternal haplogroup, I learned about the 12 tribes of Israel. Despite being brought up Catholic, this was news to me. It seems that 10 of the twelve tribes were missing in action from around the 7th century BC. I waded through a lot of strange stuff on YouTube but I became fairly convinced that there must be something in the story that the descendents of the missing 10 tribes had populated Europe, many of them coming to the British Isles. There are even sources which state that the Celts actually called themselves Hebrews. Now, why do I think this is related to race, genetics and intelligence specifically? Well, it seems that M1a is one of the common maternal haplogroups of the Ashkenazi Jews. Now, I don't have the Ashkenazi genetic marker although I've just realised that I don't know if that marker is present on the paternal Y or maternal X chromosome so there might be a little issue with my theory. However, what I had previous thought was that my maternal ancestor split from the root Ancient Israelite population that gave birth to the Ashkenazis before they acquired their particular Ashkenazi marker. When I was six I scored highly on a Weschler IQ test (WISC). So, essentially, my theory is that the Ashkenazi Jews are actually a subpopulation of a larger group, some of whom are actually descendants of the Celts and live in the British Isles. This would also to my mind explain the huge contribution of the Scots, Irish, Welsh and English to science, literature, philosophy, etc., etc., over the centuries. This is actually the result of our descent from a base population with shared roots with the Ashkenazi Jews who are acknowledged to have the highest IQs. If the kinship of British or European Ancient Israelite to the Ashkenazis were studied I suspect that together we would jointly be top of the IQ scale. There's a lot of interesting stuff out there which supports my theory, e.g. search for The Scottish Declaration of Independence 1320, which refers to them being "the people of Israel". There are many other sources too which link the Scots, Welsh and Irish to the Hebrews. It would be interesting to know if anyone else with a similar background has discovered similar unexpected ancestral roots after doing a genetic test and what people think of my theory.
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It's a good film. I'd be astonished if any reasonable person would vote to stay after watching it. The problem is, those who want to stay aren't reasonable and won't watch it anyway.
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I live in London. £165k is fairly low for anywhere in London. Personally, I wouldn't pay the prices these days. I think the market is ripe for a big correction although, as the saying goes, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. It depends on how secure your job would be in a downturn. If you could always pay the mortgage no matter what then you might do ok. -
I come from a Catholic family too and had similar problems too although not as severe I suspect. The best way to get over it is to try and find out why your parents were the way they were. In my case, there are various inherited genetic issues which resulted in health problems which affected behaviour. Once you understand that it is a physical illness and not some kind of inherent evil which made your parents the way they were it goes a long way to helping you to understand why these things happened to you. You can then perhaps understand your own issues better, explore your own health issues and perhaps resolve them. Please take a look at my thread about Nutrition, behaviour, etc.
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No problem. I've been recovering for the last four or five years and have had to learn a lot about a wide range of issues in order to treat myself. It's not vitamin B12 deficiency on its own. In fact, B12 deficiency is a symptom rather than a cause. The real culprit as far as mental health goes is folate deficiency I think. I'll go into more detail later but it's essentially to do with the methylation cycle and how it's possible to get stuck in the folate trap. There is peer reviewed literature, I link to a paper above but the research area is still pretty new. I'll write more later. -
I've watched various videos by Stefan on drugs and addiction in which he talks convincingly about his theory regarding childhood abuse and how that predisposes them to addiction and other mental health and behavioural problems in later life. I would actually like to propose the physical mechanism by which this occurs in general terms. It will require a number of posts to expound my theory I think. I have written various documents designed to explain the basis for my theory to a lay audience unfamiliar with nutritional deficiencies, haematology, genetics, neuroscience, etc. However, these documents were intended for legal professionals and are probably not the best place to start so I hope what follows is not too convoluted to begin with. Essentially, the theory revolves around the effects on physical health caused by deficiencies of various vitamins and minerals on a vital physical process known as methylation. There is an interesting scientific paper which can give you an overview of the effects of various genetic polymorphisms involved in the methylation cycle and their possible relationships to various mental health and behavioural problems here: B vitamin polymorphisms and behavior: Evidence of associations with neurodevelopment, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and cognitive decline http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763414002048. Hopefully, a quick perusal of this paper will convince you bear with me through what might otherwise be a fairly complex explanation. The methylation cycle is the process by which the vitamins B9, or folate, and B12 are absorbed from our food and then converted into the active forms ready for use in the body. Folate is essential for DNA synthesis and B12 is essential for building the myelin sheaths which surround our nerves to protect and insulate them. A folate deficiency will mean that the body will have problems because it can't create new cells necessary to repair wear and tear, for new blood cells, the correct functioning of the immune system, neurotransmitters, etc. A deficiency of B12 will eventually result in the breakdown of the myelin sheaths around the nerves, e.g. in pernicious anaemia this eventually results in sub-acute degeneration of the spinal column and is fatal. Deficiencies of folate or B12 will result in enlarged red blood cells (RBCs), which can't absorb and carry oxygen around the body properly, known as macrocytic RBCs and will eventually lead to macrocytic anaemia. A deficiency of iron will result in smaller RBCs containing no haemoglobin which are incapable of carrying oxygen, known as microcytic RBCs and will eventually lead to microcytic anaemia. It is important to note that both types of anaemia can be present at the same time in a condition known as dimorphic anaemia, i.e. there are at least two distinct bodies of RBCs present at the same time, one or more macrocytic and one or more microcytic. It is this type of anaemia in my view which not being properly diagnosed and treated. It is possible to be anaemic or borderline anaemic with this condition and to have complete blood count (CBC) parameters in the normal range (the CBC is also known as full blood count (FBC) in the UK).. If a doctor isn't alert to the tell-tale signs that there might be both macrocytosis and microcytosis present then this condition can persist for many years before a person becomes ill enough to display obvious symptoms and abnormal CBC parameters. Unfortunately, I think it is the norm that doctors do not recognise this condition and the patient goes undiagnosed for years, developing more serious conditions from depression, addiction and behavioural problems to cancer, heart disease and diabetes. It is the effects of these deficiencies on oxygen levels, neurotransmitter production, nutrient absorption, digestion, the immune system, aerobic respiration, the organs and glands which combine with a person's genetics to cause a wide range of health problems. It is the fact that doctors simply do not recognise these problems, despite them being taught in undergraduate medical schools, which means that people develop behavioural and other health conditions from an early age. It is difficult to believe that many people in the first world are actually suffering from malnutrition but it is true. This fact is hidden from us because dimorphic anaemia goes undiagnosed and so figures for anaemia in the first world are extremely unreliable. Rather than diagnose these simple and cheap to treat problems, people are instead being given drugs to treat symptoms which tend to make the problems worse rather than cure the underlying problems. There are many scientific papers linking vitamin B12 deficiency to various mental disorders and a number linking iron deficiency with, for example, ADHD. It is, in fact, the combination of folate, B12 and iron deficiencies in many cases which result in the conditions needed to cause neurological problems. This is why there is no such thing as mental illness: so-called mental illness is the result of undiagnosed physical problems. The brain doesn't live in splendid isolation apart from the rest of the body. It is affected by the same physical diseases as the rest of the body. I hope people will engage with me, ask questions and help me flesh out my explanation. I'm sure I've missed some important facts which would help people to understand the above. I'll think on it and get back to you with the next installment.
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Hi Dankse, Yes, I am treating myself these days. I was treated for B12 deficiency for decades but doctors failed to diagnose my folate and iron deficiencies. I finally got a doctor who gave me folic acid, B12, etc., and started to get better from there. I had been so ill, however, that the sheer timescales over which I'd been anaemic caused so much damage and so many other problems that it has taken years to get to the bottom of everything. I think I'm almost as well as I am going to get. I'm doing pretty well. Just sorting out the thyroid problem I have and once I'm stable on the thyroid medications (natural thyroid hormone) hopefully that will be me. I've been looking for the right place to start a conversation. If you've any suggestions that would be helpful. I've seen some threads talking about nutrition which I might add to. I'll probably also create my own when I'm ready. I'm also very interested in the usual social and political issues too so I won't just be talking about health.
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I'm not sure how I encountered Stefan's videos on YouTube. The chances are one was just randomly presented to me. I'm glad I watched it though as I've since watched numerous videos and tend to agree with what Stefan says. However, I do have some views on some things, born of personal experience and insight, which I think would help Stefan to understand the root causes of the ills which cause serious behavioural problems in people and result in the kind of issues he discusses in his videos. When one understands the root causes of these aberrant behaviours one comes to realise that, in actual fact, they are caused by physical illness which, of course, no one chooses. I speak of things like mental illness, addiction, criminality, violence, abuse and most, if not all, remaining deviant behaviours. I come from a Scots/Irish family background. Aunts, uncles, cousins on both sides of the family and my own father have suffered from serious addictions to alcohol and smoking. Indeed, it could be said that a significant proportion successfully managed to drink or smoke, occasionally both, themselves to death. It's also true to say that I was physically abused, i.e. beaten, by both parents too. So I think my family background is probably similar to many who've discussed their issues on Stefan's show and perhaps even Stefan's himself. I have actually suffered from ill-health to a greater or lesser extent my whole life, although I was a fairly successful sportsman as a teenager, managed to do well at school and finally went to university. Unbeknownst to me, I was really quite seriously ill by my early twenties. Without going into too much detail at this stage, I finally received a diagnosis and treatment but, unfortunately, it transpired that I was partially misdiagnosed, the real underlying cause of my illness wasn't discovered and the treatment I did receive simply covered it up and left it to worsen slowly over many years. I finally got to the point in my mid-forties where things came to a head and I became so ill that I nearly died. Thankfully, I managed to get some help, not from the mainstream medical world I might add, which saved my life and gave me the final insight into the root cause of my illness which was a simple vitamin deficiency. Subsequently, I had genetic test done by 23andMe as a result of which I discovered that I had a particular genetic polymorphism which was at the heart of the problem with my processing of several vitamins. Interestingly, this polymorphism is found in roughly 30% of Northern Irish men in one study and so I expect it's fairly common throughout Ireland and Scotland. Throughout my life I have had behavioural problems, finally diagnosed as Adult ADHD, addiction issues and other health problems. As a result of what I have learned I came to understand the issues my parents had too and that, essentially, their behavioural problems stemmed from the same genetic issues. Naturally, I no longer hold grudges against them because, quite clearly, their problems were not of their making. They could easily have had their physical illnesses, i.e. various nutritional problems, diagnosed and treated but they were let down by the medical profession in exactly the same way as I had been. I've just been lucky and had the insight into my condition which saved my life and enabled me to understand, finally, after many years that the suffering I went through was not my fault. In fact, the severity of my illness, which was much more severe than either parent, had been exacerbated by iatrogenic harm, i.e. medical treatment and drugs given to me as a young child. Unfortunately, millions haven't been so lucky and paid the ultimate price. Sorry for such a long introduction. I would really like to discuss these issues with people in depth and, hopefully, enable as many people as possible to set off on a similar road to recovery as mine. I know that many people in the past have claimed to have the cure for all our ills in magic potions, vitamins and who knows what else. I am not claiming to have the answer for everyone. However, the medical issue I've identified is extremely common and likely affects a very large percentage of the global population. It is simple to diagnose and for many it is really easy to treat if caught early enough. It is a form of anaemia or borderline anaemia known as dimorphic anaemia which means that people have deficiencies of B12, folate and iron. There are dozens of genetic polymorphisms which affect how well a person can absorb and utilise B12 and folate and, hence, many more possible permutations which can cause illness. This then affects a process known as methylation which is essential for producing active folate which is in turn essential for DNA synthesis, i.e. if you don't have enough active folate, your body will fail to create some of the new cells it needs to function properly. The longer this goes on, the more the damage accumulates as the body fails to repair itself. Eventually, it affects its ability to create neurotransmitters and it's easy to see how that, combined with a lack of oxygen from some degree of anaemia is unhelpful for brain function and hence, behaviour. Ok, I've written way more than I meant to and I hope people manage to stick with it to the end and want to discuss this with me in more depth elsewhere in the forums. Too much information?