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Excuse my past scepticism, Damian. I did not notice your sources to the video below. I have no evidence to disprove your sources, hence I retract the comment above. Thank you for your contribution to the intellectual discussion on FDR.

- First video: About sharia police in Germany, it definitely depends on which stateof Germany you are talking about. For the majority of the states strictly prohibit and enforce the prohibition on sharia police. Additionally as fact, there are no confirmed no-go zones in Germany as of yet. - Second video: Bullshit. The accent is most probably Southern german, but they never say anything about what the title claims. - Third video: No problem... besides everything Merkel is saying, of course.

To everyone interested in knowing the truth. I have seen no good summary of the events of the situation in Hungary and the Eastern Route, that sees 3/4 of all migrants to Europe as of yet, so here it is. This is a chronological summary of the "Migrant Crisis" events of 2015, 2016 and 2017, their impacts on Hungary, and how Hungary handled the situation as the primary Transit Country for migrants headed into the EU Schengen Zone. Sources are in blue, and I have listed them directly after the corresponding story. Some sources are in English, but since coverage on Hungary has been very scarce, most are in Hungarian or a few even German. I was very reluctant to use sources from left-leaning media, but I did include some that I know to be credible. Researched and compiled by myself using mostly reports of Hungarian media, EU data, police data, private citizens and my personal insight as a JRS Jesuit Refugee Service worker. Important words are in red. 2015 The First Wave: - August: For the Hungarian people, the "refugee crisis" really began in the last days of August, when without notice, hundreds of people of foreign origins set up a camp within the recently renovated Keleti train station. The camp had an uneasy feeling about it. One could smell the stench of urine, see the bored people, and feel the tension brewing between the locals and the newcomers. No bypassers understood what was going on, the average hungarian couldn't even find Syria on a map, from where hordes of people could be flooding into Europe. Nobody was informed by the authorities of why the camp was set up, the local media began investigating immediately, but all anyone could actually do was to watch and wait. (http://alfahir.hu/igy_nez_ki_a_menekulttaborra_valt_keleti_palyaudvar) - On the 1st of September however, the calm was gone. To this day, nobody truly knows what caused the unrest, but the people present at the station were witnesses to the migrants shouting, blocking roads, chasing after some men and being all-round unpeaceul. The hungarians didn't even know how to react to this behaviour. The last time anything of this sort happened in the peaceful city of Budapest was in 2006, when the people revolted against the leftist government that admitted to lying to the country. Some curious pedestrians went closer to the raging mob, whipped out their mobile devices, and did what any normal western millenial would do - take selfies. The riot police arrived on the scene in under an hour, and started pushing the mob off the roads. Nothing much happened after that, but this incident was enough to prompt the government to act. Most of the station became off limits to all migrants, and at least two dozen police officers stood guard at the gates at all times, all without heavy gear or firearms. (http://www.origo.hu/itthon/20150901-menekultek-tuntetnek-lezartak-kiuritetek-a-keleti-palyaudvart.html) - On 3rd September 2015, one day before the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group F match, Hungarian football hooligans clashed with the Hungarian police in the streets of Budapest, 16 of them being arrested. No definitely credible sources exist on this, but many claim that the camp at Keleti was also attacked by the hooligans. This may have been the reason why on the 4th, hundreds of the migrants suddenly packed their things, and began their march towards Austria. By the end of September, no migrants were left at Keleti. (http://www.press-report.hu.com/clanek-102723818-osszeverekedtek-a-szurkolok-a-menekultekkel-a-keletinel) - On September 16th, to the surprise of the arriving migrants, and to the outrage of the EU and the global leftist media, the Serbian border crossing of Röszke-Horgos was closed to all illegals (Serbia not a Schengen country). As all criminals do, the migrants began throwing a tantrum, assaulting the border fence, throwing rocks at police. The police responded with tear-gas and water cannons. The western media reported on the incident, for whatever reason they also denounced the behaviour of the police. According to the hungarian press, 2 officers were injured, the migrants merely got a healthy dose of tear-gas. (http://www.delmagyar.hu/szeged_hirek/ez_tortent_penteken_kitores_kodobalas_es_konnygaz_a_roszkei_hangarnal/2444060/) - By September 17th the prime minister of Hungary had ordered a temporary fence to be erected on the 151km Serbian border, and a permanent 4 meters high razor-wire fence was already being constructed. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/13/hungary-begins-work-on-border-fence-to-keep-out-migrants)(http://www.fidesz.sopron.hu/?p=4275) The chancellor of Germany, the EU parliament, Austria and the hungarian left all attacked the prime minister, accusing him with racism, xenophobia and far-right ideology. (http://index.hu/kulfold/2015/06/23/magyarorszag_kitette_a_megtelt_tablat/) The majority of the hungarian populace still had not caught up with the events. The 329km border with Croatia was also set to be fenced, as the migrants could still go around the serbian fence. (Croatia also not Schengen). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_border_barrier) - On 22 September 2015, European Union interior ministers meeting in the Justice and Home affairs council approved a plan to relocate 120,000 asylum seekers over two years from the frontline states Italy, Grrece, and Hungary to all other EU countries (except Denmark, Ireland and the United Kingdom which have opt-outs). The relocation plan applies to asylum seekers "in clear need of international protection" (those with a recognition rate higher than 75%, i.e. Syrians, Eritreans and Iraqis) – 15,600 from Italy, 50,400 from Greece and 54,000 from Hungary – who will be distributed among EU states on the basis of quotas taking into account the size of economy and population of each state, as well as the average number of asylum applications. The decision was taken by majority vote, with the Czechia, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia voting against and Finland abstaining. Since Hungary voted against the relocation plan, its 54,000 asylum seekers would not be relocated for now, and could be relocated from Italy and Greece instead Historical context: It is important to understand the position of the people who were not ok with the actions of the pm. These people took it as a given that every single one of the migrants were refugees. Hence, as the Geneva Convention of 1949 dictates, every country that signed the treaty agrees to take in every person the treaty designates as a Refugee. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions) An example of the treaty in effect was Austria in 1965, when revolutions broke out in Poland, Hungary and Chechia. Following the failiures of the insurrections, thousands of refugees fled to Austria. The Austrian border guards could have simply shot the refugees, since they were crossing the border illegally, but thanks to the Geneva Conventions the refugees were distributed among the western nations. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/ir2/hungaryrev2.shtml) Why did Hungary build the fence? The only reason is that these new types of refugees had no papers, they refused to comply to the rules, to cooperate with the hungarian authorities and register. (http://www.bmbah.hu/index.php?lang=hu) How a refugee is admitted to the EU is outlined in the Dublin agreement. According to which, the the first country that foreigners enter into, must be the one to register them. https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/asylum/examination-of-applicants_en And Hungary, being the very edge of the Schengen zone, was responsible for vetting every foreigner that sets foot in the EU. Also, it is worth mentioning that the border was not completely closed, and legal immigrants were still allowed to enter at checkpoints, as long as they had papers. (https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/asylum/examination-of-applicants_en) By 2016, if sources are at least some indicator, Hungary has seen 2/3rd of all immigrants into the Schengen zone. Which until 2016, was 300 000 persons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Migrant_routes.2C_development.2C_and_responses_in_individual_countries Hungary's history with refugees: - From the 17th until the 19th century, the southernmost part of the country, a 50-100km wide, 1000km long strip of land including Croatia, Slavonia, Vojvodina and Southern Transylvania was officially designated the Borderguard Territories (Határőr vidék). The only job of every person living in this land was to systematically keep out or vet every refugee fleeing from the Ottoman Empire. Thousands of people fled from the South, and most settled and contributed very diligently to the economy and the culture that had given them asylum. Please note that Hungary, as all other European powers, has a long History dealing with multiculturalism. For 900 years only half of the country's population was ethnically Hungarian, the others were Romanians, Slavs and Germans. During Communism many Palestinians were settled in the country and they were integrated without much effort. Today 10% of the population of Hungary is ethnically Gypsy. Quite stereotypically, they do not work, they are uneducated, they are violent, and they are hostile towards Hungarians. The FIDESZ government implemented many solutions to integrate the Gypsy population: Revoked child support for the unemployed, started low-wage job programs, subsidised education... Everyone who immigrates to Hungary simply has to learn the language, the customs, the laws, must work, and above all, has to come in legally. Just like my father did, who came in from Mongolia, worked, graduated University, married a very nice Hungarian lady, and never asked for free stuff. Then he went back to Mongolia along with his family, to spread European culture to the East. The first terror attacks in Europe (reactions of Hungarian citizens and the government): - November 15th, Paris attacks. One of the attackers was found to have crossed the Hungarian border in September. The west suddenly stops attacking Hungary, and in fact, I myself have not found a single English-language article about Hungary and the refugee crisis since then... One wonders why. State of emergency declared in most EU countries. (http://estiujsag.hu/belfold/rendkivuli-allapot-kihirdetese-meg-nincs-magyarorszagon)The Visegrad 4 hold meetings almost every month after that in order to address the crisis. Slovakia, Poland and Chechia all dispatch police units to patrol the now 500km long Southern border barrier. (http://kitekinto.hu/cimke/visegradi-negyek/) - March 22, Brussels attacks. I was talking to my brother on skype, who studies in Brussels. I belive our talk very accurately embodied the tragic state of the European mindset that day. During the conversation he picks up his phone and comments in a calm voice "They bombed the train station". Without lifting an eyebrow, I said "Yep". After a couple minutes he continues "the airport as well", to which following a brief pause I ask "So germany next?". He said "Yep". Shorty afterwards, a Facebook notification arrives on my phone, saying that my brother has been marked to be alive. Yes, apparently Facebook has developed a service just for such catastrophies. I can almost imagine an ad like: "Next time a terrorist blows himself up next to you, you too can be marked as alive by your friend!" Almost every country in the EU declared a state of emergency. That including Hungary, where every metro station was patrolled by a squad of heavily armed counter-terrorism officers (TEK). This was the first occasion in my lifetime on which I saw a sub-machine gun in Budapest. I had seen quite a few in London 3 years prior, where they always have had armed police at every major Underground station since the London bombings. (http://nepszava.hu/cikk/1089030-terrortamadas-brusszelben-34-halott-106-sebesult---videok) - The Austrian and the Slovenian governments place orders to Hungary for 1000km of razor-wire fence. (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/691905/Austria-plan-build-huge-border-fence-stop-migrants-Schengen-EU-Brussels) Hungary stocks up with enough fence to be able to seal off the 443km border with Romania in a single day if the order is given. (http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-hungary-minister-idUKKCN0UX284) Bavaria stands by Hungary. (http://www.dw.com/de/festakt-zum-ungarn-aufstand-im-bayerischen-landtag/a-36072499) 2016 The Second Wave: - The spring brought hundreds of new "refugees" to Hungary. Nevertheless, the hungarian government ordered all except 3 refugee camps closed For perspective, the small camp at Fót, which used to house around 60 refugees until April, was suddenly home to 250 people. Every week, about 50 people left for Austria, and 60 new people came. This meant that every list the camp authorities had at any given time were 3 days out of date. (http://alfahir.hu/tulzsufoltak_a_magyarorszagi_menekulttaborok) About our refugees. We had no means to verify their names, their age, nor their nationality. I myself have no idea how they were allwed through the border. The rounded ratio of nationalities in the camps at any given time were 40% Afghani, 25% Pakistani, 10% Subsaharan, 10% Saharan, 5% Bangla, 10% other including Iraqi, Turkish (note: I have not seen confirmed reports of a single person from Syria.) These numbers are classified information , so there are no sources to this data anywhere. Official reports, if to be trusted are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Origins_and_motivations - By summer, contrary to what we were expecting - a tidal wave of immigrants - things were extremely calm. To everyone's surprise, the government closed down another refugee camp, and the remaining two had their occupants reduced to normal numbers. Only 40 total number of refugees are admitted each day. Most continue on to Germany anyway. (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/22/hungary-border-fence-massive-success-balkan-route-trickle/) In all fairness, there had been only one confirmed violent action carried out by a migrant within Hungary. An afghani stabbed another unknown migrant at Bicske. This low crime rate is probably a result of strictly enacted policies from the right-leaning FIDESZ majority government. - October 2. Hungary holds a referendum over whether or not to accept the EU dictated migrant quotas. With a 43% participation rate, 98% of voter vote to reject the quotas. This referendum in effect is inconsequencial, since the government can only act on referendums for which the participation rate is above 50%. Nevertheless, the results mean that FIDESZ is still by far the most popular political party among voters. (https://www.rt.com/news/361390-hungary-referendum-migrant-quotas/) (http://www.dw.com/de/referendum-orban-hat-sein-ziel-schon-erreicht/a-35933763) - By the end of 2016 only 1 refugee camp remains in Hungary. (http://444.hu/tag/menekulttabor?page=1) Accepted refugees, who do exist, of course, are given 2 months to find residence in Hungary. They are provided free education, as education is free in Hungary, so they have no reason not to learn Hungarian. Meanwhile, volunteers and from all over the country, civil services, and various Christian denominations, most notably the Catholic Church, all assist in the assimilation of these people. Lesson: You do not need to build a wall, America. Just purchase a fence from Hungary! - 2017 February Update: With the "Border Hunter Initiative" fást in motion, with cooperation of the Visegrád Alliance, and with the Second Border Fence being built, one would expect not to see any more illegal migrants coming in from the Balkans ever again. http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarvadasz-kepzes/hatarvadasz-hirek http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-hungary-fence-idUSKBN16614A However, since there is currently virtually no unified stance on the matter between all EU countries, it is quite impossible to completely halt the flow of illegal migrants. 9 EU members have already reinstated border controls, but only Spain, Hungary, Austria and Slovenia have built fences along their borders. https://eblnews.com/news/europe/current-migration-border-controls-europes-schengen-area-6981 - 2017 The third wave: There is always a sizable influx of people from the south at the arrival of Spring. Just like it happened in 2015 and 2016, the March of 2017 is seeing a another Wave of men without papers, nor nationalities, nor the will to apply legally. The Hungarian Police have reported that the migrants seem to make an attempt of crossing Hungary every Weekend, as the Police would arrest one or two illegals on a slow day, but over 20 or 30 on Mondays. It is almost as if they were organising a trekking party on a weekly basis. http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarinfo/elfogott-migransok-szama By now, there is only one Refugee Processing camp left in Hungary. Numbers have finally stabilised at 80, but almost all of them leave west in less than a month. Austria has not erected a fence on their border with Hungary, which means that it is impossible to know how many migrants slip past Hungary into Western Europe. As of April 2017, at least 50 000 people are stranded in Greece, and another 8000 in Serbia, partly due to the border controls of Hungary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#International By April 28th, Hungary has completed construction of second layer of razor-wire fence. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/hungary-builds-a-second-wall-against-illegals/ - The sorry state of the EU: In short, the EU has still not come up with a comprehensive proposal to deal with the crisis. https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-migration-and-asylum-european-union The plan of distributing migrants was vetoed by 4 EU states in 2015 (Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania). http://publications.europa.eu/webpub/com/factsheets/refugee-crisis/en/ They haven't got sufficient hands on the ground, their numbers are out of date by almost a year, all asylum centres west of Bratislava are overcrowded, real information is very hard to obtain, and the independent organisations are unable to cooperate with each other. Terror attacks in Europe in 2016: http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/list-of-terrorist-attacks-that-have-struck-europe-in-2016/ - Official EUROSTAT statistics on asylum seeker applications (have a blast, but take a salt mine with it): http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Asylum_statistics - Analyzing EUROSTAT data: 1. All data are extremely outdated, with last records from early 2016. 2. There is no way to actually track anyone. Most asylees have no papers, and they apply multiple times in various countries, or they do not apply at all. 3. There is no centralised bureau that handles immigration in the EU, henc reports come from various EU states, most of whom have not set up border controls, thusly unable to acccurately measure numbers. 4. I am unable to find reliable data on the number of admitted refugees and their origins. Curious.

I am sorry. I know of no religion that has only one book. One may be referring to the Quaran of Islam,or the Bible of the Protestants, but that would be incorrect, and here is a link to back me up. Please excuse me for quoting wikipedia, but I thought they were quite enough to disprove your assumptions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_holy_books The second link simply a breakdown of the ethymology of the word "bible", which literally means "books" in greek. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

Dear Americans, I have received my second draft notice this october, and I was seriously considering it this time. My home country still has compulsory military service, and we are the closest allies of the Russian Federation. Russia walks, we walk, they run, we run. It has been so since WWII. To all american warriors and working citizens, I say: Thank you! I would much prefer meeting you in a pub and not on the battlefield. To everyone else: Get a real job, work out, lose weight, so that you can enlist if you want a war, I would have been more than happy to see you at the end of a barrel. Once again, thank you From Mongolia and Hungary

I find myself agreeing with most of your points. Just a few questions for clarification... - Could you post the sources for the correlation between IQ and suicide rates? - Also, could you say why you think east-asians aren't excessively harsh? My personal experience differs. - Lastly, I am still not convinced by Stefan's obsession with IQ. I grant, there is some correlation with economics and all that... but does it really matter?

I am not from Japan, but I am from Mongolia, which is closeby, and I know quite a few japanese people. They problems you list, do not stem from economics, but from culture. I am sceptical to the idea that economics shapes behavious. Rather I would think that behaviour makes everything, which of course is rooted in the mindset/culture. When talking about the japanese, one should understand, that they do not think like westerners, or other asians for that matter. - They are hardcore collectivists: and always have been. Individual freedom and rights do not REALLY matter. Much similar to chinese culture. - Social harmony is paramount: They do not sacrifice peace lightly. Not even if gross violations of freedom are being committed. (which are being) - A shogun to die for: The japanese are in essence ants, they are the perfect citizenry, they love being led, their only purpose in life is to serve the Tenno. But since the Americans have in effect decapitated the Empire, much like a decapitated ant colony, the ants continue piling up recources for a while, but after a while, without leadership, they die. - Japanese culture is very very rotten. (I don't get many friends sayin this, but hear me out): It might look perfectly sauber on the outside, but inside they are as perverted as any culture can be. Don't take my Word for it, just take a look at what they create - their movies, cartoons, music... I would be glad to elaborate on that last point if anyone is interested, but I have already written too much. Mark my words though... The Empire of the Sun will rise again!

I was hoping someone would bring up the little ones. I totally agree with you - the cutest countries by far are the Rich, european, catholic, educated, nobody-cares-about-and-cares-about-nobody countries like Malta, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, Iceland. The only problem with such countries is that they are far too dependent on their surrounding neighbours. Andorra for example is jointly ruled by the sovereign of France and a Spanish bishop. With that said, I urge you to look up the history of San Marino, as it is unofficially the supreme god of independence and diplomacy, for being an independent republic since the 4th century. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sm.html

I agree it is very important to take account of the quality of life. The best official database that deals with this aspect in the HDI (human development index). According to the HDI, by 2015, Norway, Australia, Switzerland, Denmark and Netherlands are the top livable countries in the World. (http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi) As for inventions, perhaps the swiss didn't create the smartwatch, but at least they still make the best watches. It's funny that you bring up Switzerland, because Albert Einstein was a swiss Citizen when he moved to the US. Since you brought it up, let's talk about nuclear technology as an example. Many of the scientists working on the Manhattan project were either British, German or Hungarian scientists. (http://www.atomicheritage.org/bios) But this brings me to my point that I made about the USA. What makes America Strong is her welcoming nature to all freedom-lovers. I agree that there is a Strong case for America, but as you see in other comments, many people find her to be too dirty. Perhaps one could address that.

Hearing Mr.Molyneux compare civilisations, I always wanted to have a discussion on the matter of which country is truly the "best", and why it is so. So I would like to invite all freedomainers to bring insight from all over the world. Parameters of discussion: - The purpose of this thread would not necessarily be to officially elect the best place on the planet. Rather just to have an awesome discussion. - The criterium "Best" is intentionally left ambiguous by me. I would like to hear what people consider to be "good". - By "country" I mean any existinggroup of PEOPLE with independent or autonomous governments. Make a case for Sealand, if you wish, and convince me of its countryhood. Definition is intentionally left as broad as possible. To get the conversation going, here are my favourites with brief descriptions (with the biasese of a catholic): - Holy See: Keeper and guardian of the foundations of western civilisation. (Looking forward to discussing this) - Israel: Despite being in a geopolitical hellhole without any allies nearby, without any considerable resources, managed to create an utopia in the most hostile region on the planet. - USA: The only true welcoming safe haven for anyone fleeing the old world with intentions to live and let live. - Poland: No other country has been so battered in Europe, and remained still so true to its core values, so hardworking that it even dodged the recession of the 2008 financial crisis. - Switzerland: For 800 years has it maintained its sovereignty and kept its citizens safe by means of war or diplomacy, despite being a multicultural confederation. (Predominantly catholic country by the way.)

A rather broad question, wouldn't you say? Perhaps you could specify what you wish to know about.

Greetings from the frontlines of Europe! I have been listening to the soothing voice of Stefan for a while now, since I am fairly interested in philosophy, economics, religion, and psychology. For this same reason did I join the Freedomainradio community. I wish to hear what the followers of Stefan have to say about the world. Even though I am only 19, I consider myself quite well-read and well-informed regarding most of the topics that Stefan covers. My hard-working and loving father and mother are mongolian and hungarian respectively, they both started out as atheists, became protestant, then converted to roman catholicism. I was born in Budapest, grew up in Mongolia, finished school in Hungary, now I study and work in Hungary, and soon I will shortly begin studies and volunteer work in Germany. Anyway, this is what I have to offer to the community, and I am sure I will learn much here.