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re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
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Lots of bitterness and snark there to hinder your ability to think about the subject rationally. Would you prefer only an illusion of choice over a real one? The latter is what you're criticizing here, and it is both a necessary requirement for morality and responsibility, not to mention love. He had already given the responsibility for the world over to the man, who in turn gave it over to Satan. Have you truly given a gift if you take it away the moment you don't approve of its use? He made use of the situation: now we get to reveal who we are through the life we lead. Besides, it's not like Satan's regency is forever: when Christ comes back kicking ass and taking names the beast is done.
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re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
Right. It is the error of mistaking it for the greatest good that results in evil. That is the hallmark of the "nice guy". -
...and start with an a priori assumption that all of them are false. I did that too in my day, so I understand the impulse well. I am hardly moral in the sense that I fail in some sense at least daily, but I try my best. Ultimately it matters more (to me; from a secular perspective this is nonsense) that I am saved, and hopefully some others through me, but that remains to be seen.
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Unlike Azrael Rand, I never claimed to have any. He claimed he can objectively prove his case. You, on the other hand, made up a claim and asked me to prove it. That is what is dishonest. I quoted a direct claim to having proof. ...if you discount a nonexistent proof claim concerning something you made up.
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"Omniscient" is an extra-biblical doctrine I don't subscribe to. It is also an oxymoron when combined with being God.
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re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
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Because he was not created a devil but a cherub. Hitler wasn't conceived as a monster either. Do you hold his parents responsible for his crimes?
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re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
Pretty much, based on who he fears to offend the most. -
re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
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re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
When a male is called nice, he acts like a puppy. Eager to please everyone and does everything he can to provide happiness for the object of his bumbling and often comic affection. Such a male gets his guidance and aims from outside sources - he lives to please others. He is not driven. He is not forceful. He is not strong enough to stand on his legs. He is an endearing doormat. He inspires no respect. He has no moral courage, because for him it is more important to be liked than to be good. That also tends to make him a habitual liar. A good man is strong, reliable and stands up for God, his family and his people. He inspires respect and gets taken seriously. He isn't all that concerned about being liked and thus won't cave in when the going gets tough. I believe the difference is explained adequately. -
re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
I can walk you through it if you wish. So would I. I'm not sure the concept can apply here. -
re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
Yes, a week ago or so. You made a good point and I agree with it. My own point was tangential. -
re: [Podcast] 4187 Wrong About... - 2nd caller
MahtiSonni replied to barn's topic in General Feedback
If someone is nice, he is not a man. A man should always strive to be good. The difference is paramount. -
Similarities between Socialism and Judeo-Christian beliefs
MahtiSonni replied to Aleks's topic in Philosophy
Three. Judaic is very different from Christian. Socialism and Judaism can go hand in hand due to the doctrine of tikkun olam. Christianity is a religion concerning personal choice and morality and is thus entirely antithetical to the oxymoron called "forced charity". -
You should understand by the way you pose the question that you're an ideologue, not a philosopher.
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Not only does your question refute itself, it is also so hilariously absurd that it's hard the decide where to begin with it. First, if you give someone rules to play a game you're not subject to them unless you're playing it. For example, if you invent boxing and tell folks how to do it, you're really not bound to the rules of boxing while you're cooking. Second, killing isn't categorically forbidden in the Bible - far to the contrary. It is not a moral statement, it is a practical one. If you're playing Super Mario, it's no use trying to use Fus-Ro-Dah or to start a bank.
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The physicalist/materialist question is about as basic as logic gets. A can't be -A. If physicalism is true, then everything follows the laws of physics (A) and are thus determined by them. That includes our brain and the stuff happening there. If we have a free will that isn't determined by the laws of physics and not everything follows the laws of physics (-A), then physicalism has to be false. The possible error I might have here could be a misunderstanding of what physicalism means to some, but I'm willing to throw Epicuros on that one: if it doesn't mean ontological monism, why use a name that implies it?
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I have decided to dedicate my life to philosophy
MahtiSonni replied to Mole's topic in Self Knowledge
I did pretty much the same without ever consciously deciding it. Philosophy, deep thinking and pattern observation is simply what I always find myself doing. -
Were there no evil there would be absolutely no need for either Christianity or Christ to ever have existed. Funny that you think it would be a problem. The possibility of evil directly results from having moral freedom, and because of that, responsibility. The hypothetical Ray appears to be an idiot who can't grasp the concept of free will.
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You presented a false syllogism (if moon is green cheese, no rocks can come out of it). I don't know why you're raping logic to talk back at me and am not particularly interested in finding out. I did and it still is. I'm done with you.
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I do not particularly enjoy this game you're trying to play. The syllogism I presented correctly shows that either free will or physicalism must be false. That is a logical necessity and not dependent upon stuff we have. Either you can grok that or you're not tall enough for this ride.
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