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Things like waste to hip ratios are not just about being skinny. That is part of what makes up female beauty. I'm sure that guys who prefer women with a belly fatter than their hips prefer them for comfort reasons due to their low self esteem. They are preferring comfort over beauty. But that does not negate what beauty is. Another ratio for both male and female beauty is the golden ratio.

Men are disposable. The upside of caging men is that it reduces sexual competition. I don't support this. But I believe that the reduction in male sexual competition is one of the primary and unspoken motivators driving support for the prison system. Sperm are plentiful. Eggs are rare.

Another thing I have been thinking about lately with thia anti-street harassment stuff is that women working to put an end to obnoxious or annoying male behavior such as this are working to create a huge barrier to entry in the mating market. A minimum wage keeps everyone with a production level below the minimum out of the labor market and unable to develop his skills to be worth more than the minimum wage. It becomes a permanent lock out of the labor market. A prohibition on bad or annoying approaches locks men of low social skills and mate value out of the dating/ mating market. They will fail to gain skills to not be the annoying guy who these women complain about. They may become more aggressive but in more covert ways. Women will then have to deal with the dangers that come from this more covert aggression. The number of desirable, non-awkward or annoying men will drop, meaning an even smaller number of men will mate with most of the women. This can end up being fun for the few guys who are able to interact appropriately. We can all LOL at the women who slut around and then complain that their are no good men left. Feminism is finding more ways of creating this imbalance of attractive men to attractive women. Maybe it will benefit the most desirable women in the short run and maybe even long run. If you are not hit enough of a women to get one of the few desirable men you're out of luck.

Beauty isn't entirely subjective. Very little of it is subjective. There is some cultural sexual imprinting. But even that really isn't subjective. The universals include size ratios, symmetry and skin clarity. These all indicate health and longevity particularly genetic longevity.

Beauty isn't entirely subjective. Very little of it is subjective. There is some cultural sexual imprinting. But even that really isn't subjective. The universals include size ratios, symmetry and skin clarity. These all indicate health and longevity particularly genetic longevity.

I think much of what is "creepy" is about status and attractiveness. A guy lower in attractiveness is creepy. But she must continue to do what attracts attention for th possibility of attracting the attractive guy whose attention she does want. She is driven by hypergamy. The idea of a man below the narrow status of men she is after is creepy to her.

I know I touch my hands arms, neck and head. I remember hearing someone who is supposed to be good at reading body language say that discomfort can sometimes be measured in another person by how high up the arm that person touches. Touching the neck or head shows great discomfort. I notice this in myself and others and try to identify what is causing the discomfort. I try to force myself to sit and stand in a position that is supposed to be one pd more comfort. I'm not sure how much it does to help although it can help stop anxiety from escalating too much. I think I do this as a self soothing act. I noticed recently while on psilocybin that I did this much more. Psilocybin magnifies repressed emotions. I must have some repressed discomfort that is causing the self soothing.

I'm older than Cantwell. And I can't say I have ever been in love. I think that has saved me lots of trouble. But I'm not entirely sure that I am better off not. I have long had the belief that being in love is something weak dysfunctional people do. It's like taking up cocaine I hear, something else I haven't done. Fun euphoria at the beginning followed by a miserable crash.

Were they good for the needy?

I found Deida's book very useful. I actually listened to the audio version several times over the years. I remind myself of the idea that a woman does not want a man to make women the most important thing in his life. Never make a woman the most important thing in your life.

I have been thinking Rollo Tomassi would make an interesting guest for Stefan. I wonder if Stefan is already reading some of his stuff based on some recent comments.

100 questions? If you want to be seen as valuable to another person, you need to be in the habit of adding value in your interactions. Asking questions is usually a value taking action. It is better to find ways to make statements that will trigger a comment if the other person is interested. It can take some added effort but doesn't make the other person feel interrogated. It lets the otherwise person open up as comfortable. For example: I have made comments about how parents will attempt to control children for their convenience.

It can be frustrating. I think it is because we are making sexual selection decisions on a level we are not aware of. Younger people have even less ability to be aware of why they chose one person over another. Don't ever expect a woman, especially a young woman, to give you accurate feedback about what she is after. They don't know themselves. Learn from the guys who have figured it out.

There will always be alphas in any society. I think frewdomain radio and other freedom movement projects are just efforts to restructure the status game. The church is a status game. Businesses are a status game. Sports are a status game. The state is a status game. It is the declaration of high status to those most efficient at violence and theft. Everything we do is built around reproduction. That is what motivates us. Those with the highest status are those at the top of the game that life is built around. It is why they will NEVER give up that status willingly. Only those ignorant of the true game that is being played are foolish enough to think they can beg the alpha into giving up his alpha position. That begging is reinforcing that alpha. In a virtuous philosophical society those who add the most value to others will be the highest status. You can think of status as a social value. The order is something like this: Person of no social value. Servile person who plays a supporting role to someone of value. Person who receives value by tearing down a person of value and stealing their value. (Many people in the government are in this position. It can be argued that the government is in this position.) Person who creates value for others. (Entrepreneurs are at or above this level.) Person who creates value for people who create value. (An entrepreneur who connects value creating entrepreneurs with each other.) If you look at the content of Stef's shows you can see a constant theme of encouraging entrepreneurship and connecting entrepreneurs with each other. If you look at society and place everyone at the levels I described above, you can see why so many support the state and other destructive institutions. Few people are above the level where the state is.

No, not a woman. I made a poor choice for a screen name. Oh well. The thing about moral choice and free will is that not many people bother to question the established moral momentum (or lack of) of the culture they live in. What appears to be socially acceptable is what they find morally acceptable. We can talk all day about shoulds and the way things ought to be, but at some point we need to talk practical reality of what will move the world in a new direction of what should be. Males understand, though usually not consciously, that their value is in their ability to produce resources, accumulate and hold resources and their ability to draw others to them who have the ability to produce excess resources. The most desirable is the male who draws productive males to him. Most men (the betas) conform to be woman-pleasers in hopes of gaining access to a woman. Women aren't attracted to these men, as those who work for approval of women are seen by women as beneath them. These betas have been fooled into this strategy by the types of women who use them for resource acquisition and alpha males who also use them for resource acquisition and ultimately use the beta males as a sexual ornament for pussy acquisition. The men who are most attractive are those who have men bringing them resources. Beta male followers are there for the reproductive benefit of the alpha. The alpha knows this, but the beta usually does not. (BTW, this focus on the tiny number of alpha males is the source of the idea of patriarchy.) The tiny minority of men who grow up modeling alpha behaviors receive many benefits and also have no motivation to question societal momentum. Females see their value as their reproductive potential. (Contraceptives and beauty enhancers have allowed women to use this potential to draw out many more resources than they have in the past.) Women are sexually drawn to the alphas during their most fertile years. Women receive sexual satisfaction from alphas and other resources from betas (let's just be friends). Women have little motivation to question cultural memes during this fertile reproductive part of their lives. Why would they when they are recieving so many resources for being a woman. Women are the limited but perishable sex. If women are ever motivated to question societal norms it is either after they have passed their prime reproductive years. Or when some deviant alpha seduces them into another direction. The people LEAST likely to question societal momentum are those most likely to reproduce genetic offspring. These people who fail to question cultural memes simply reproduce those memes. Males start to question society when they do not receive the benefits from society. Men are more likely to question a system that robs them of their resource production and accumulation (the state) and robs them of the ability to control their own lives. The State imposes an alpha that will forcibly subjugate and humiliate those who dissent. Look at how police interact with people. Police force people to bend over and put their hands behind their backs. Women like being dominated. Men see being dominated by the politians beta (police) as an assault on their reproductive value. Men hate cops much more than women. The state is a social institution where men are forced to provide resources for an alpha male. Men on some level know they are increasing the reproductive value of another male at the expense of their own reproductive value. Look at the demographic makeup of listeners to Freedomain Radio. Look at the demographic makeup of libertarian groups in general. They are usually 80%+ male. Males are the surplus / disposable sex. A fair number can stray from society without causing any disruption to societal momentum unless they draw women to them. Be the alpha that seduces women into a better direction. Don't be fooled into thinking there are just as many nubile women out there questioning the sick society we live in as there are men. They don't do it because they aren't motivated to. More men do it because they are motivated to. All successful social movements are built around an unspoken rule: attract the females, and the males will follow. The state does this by having the supreme confident powerful alpha male president who is also a beta male provider who REALLY cares about them and provides them food and healthcare. Churches also appeal to women with the Jesus who loves them despite being the shitty person that they are while a charismatic powerful man stands at the front (at least in many Protestant churches.), and men (who tend to be more skeptical) follow into churches in order to gain access to the concentration of pussy there. I think Stef has used this to try to appeal more to women. I think he understands that his ideas will go nowhere unless he appeals to the meme replicators we call women. A lot of the PUA alpha techniques are superficial alpha characteristics. The most superficial and easily duped women will go for them. Don't put on an act. Resolve your insecurities to actually become more alpha, so it is internally who you are. There seems to be this "women should like beta men more" wishful thinking among many men. Low quality women are fooled by superficial phony alpha men, and better quality women seek out real alpha men who aren't putting on an act. Betas are what women will settle for when they can't lock down an alpha. Do you want to be something she settled for? http://heartiste.wordpress.com/.../five-minutes-of-alpha-fifty-years-of-pining/

This focus on the minority of alpha males explains a lot of female views. If only the alpha males are acknowledged, then things like the patriarchy make sense. Many women don't consider the vast majority of beta males as an option any more than they consider mating with a goldfish. They are almost invisible. Women can't be blamed for all of this. Hypergamy and sexual selection are part of female nature. The world will improve when the better men behave in a more alpha manner. The sociopaths know how to be alpha.

A man can either learn to deal with women as they are or try to deal with women as he wishes them to be in his idealistic fantsay. Women are the limiting factor in reproduction. They also require more resources when they have babies. It is the job of men to sell women on the sex, not hard considering how the meme of controlling their sexuality is largely faded away. It is the job of women to sell men on committement. Anyone who understands sales knows that a good salesperson does not blame his customer for failing to purchase. It is the job of the salesperson to make the product or service so appealing that the customer wants to purchase. People hate to be sold but love to buy. "Man up!" is a pushy guilt-tripping sales tactic. Don't play into the manipulation. Women will fail at this until they gain some empathy for the men they are trying to sell to. They will fail until they understand why commitment would be appealing to a man at all and set up those appealing conditions. Men who sell their committment too easily are creepy, clingy, needy and otherwise just not respected. I have wondered how much of the change in female behavior is due to a torrent of alpha men in the media. This may have driven them to seek men with alpha behavior even more than they have in the past. This means many women will only see as acceptable any man who displays the alpha charactersitic of having an abundance of female options. (<<<< This is more speculative and theoretical.) Enjoy the decline, guys!

How far are you from Indiana? I am working on acquiring abandoned buildings in Gary. I don't know if you are that adventurous. You could use one house or part of a building if you helped clean it up. Would you still be able to get to work if you moved? Btw, I would be interested in a discussion on the ethics of abandoned property. Where are the ethical boundaries? For another thread of course.

The 50th Law by Robert Green and Fifty Cent.

I believe many have negative experience of adults. Connect with those negative emotions and draw people in. Those who are angry and depressed over the harm done to them but have not yet done much harm to others will be most open. They will feel an instant connection with the ride marketing. Draw them in with this connection and form community among them. Police are bullies. They attack people who lack community like a school bully attacks a kid who lacks parental support. My mother said many times to me while growing up that if I were ever arrested to not call her because she would not get me out of jail. I believe cops can read my lack of social support on me and attack because of it. It's dangerous, but it's the only way to do it from what I can see. When I hear "call the cops", it sounds the same as telling a kid who is bullied to go approach the bully in an isolated area. To say this is effective without showing massive evidence is completely faith based. Have you ever noticed that the typical way of interacting with police and courts is some version of self attack and praise of evil? These sociopaths become addicted to this servile behavior and lash out when denied. They are like a crackhead who has his crack pipe pulled out of his hand just before taking a hit he has been jonesing for.

I don't know enough about how different departments or agencies operate, but based on my experiences with police, I can't imagine them adding anything beneficial to the situation. They police have clearly normalized a lot of abuse themselves. That is why they attack others. They will see child abuse as just normal parent child interaction. I will acknowledge that I am likely attacked for showing some level of fear around police. I try to suppress it. But I cannot act like i do around some non state person. They trigger lots of negative emotions in me. The only way to fully shut them off as far as I have figured out is to consume some type of drug, not something I want to do all the time just in case. I do when I have to go to court. Considering possible police encounters and preparing for them is something I do whenever I go outside the house. I hate constantly needing to look for them while traveling, but it's the reality of the world I am in. I have been tailgates by police and stopped and ticketed for mad up offenses. I saw them and drove super careful. I eventually pulled into a gas station so I could calm my nerves since I was so tense from being followed. That is when this douchebag flipped on his lights and claim I failed to signal, a lie. I missed the court date. I think I shut it out of my mind so I wouldn't spend my time constantly worrying about it. That lead to a group of cops coming to my house and smashing my window after beating on my door to arrest me for failing to show up for court on the bullshit ticket. When I came outside they had guns pointed at me. Once my brother paid them off they let me out. People who will threaten to kill me like that over a little bit of money are not people I trust to deal with domestic disputes. I have many more negative experiences. I guess I get targeted with ma up accusations since I just give off a vibe of being different. Btw, I try to look pretty ordinary and conservative much of the time. Another thing I have thought about is the possible negative consequences of modeling positive interactions with children. I have noticed that the adults who seem most abusive also appear to have developed a fair amount of hostility toward me. They have also told children lies about me. I guess it's all part of isolating them. I know I'm not the greatest at healthy communication, but I'm sure I am vastly different from what they typically see.

I have heard many FDR podcasts where Stefan suggests call the "authorities" or call the cops in situations of abuse. I always find this irritating. From my experience, the "authorities" are most problematic in areas where abuse is most common. I live in an area now where I hear neighbors fighting. I have heard people yelling on another block when I had the windows closed at night. I see little children, clearly neglected, smashing up abandoned houses that are dangerous. I have heard stories about little pre-kindergarten children killing feral kittens. I did not call anyone and won't. I see the police as some of the most despicable thugs around. I try to be friendly to people especially children. I figure the best thing to do at this time is just interact in a positive way so they see a positive communication modeled. I'm not great at it, but I think it's worth trying to communicate in this way so they see that there are other types of people in this world. Not surprising, I have heard rumors spread about me being abusive. These rumors appear to come from the neighbors who I imagine are the most abusive based on the behavior of their children. They are projecting their abuse onto me. I believe Stefan's only argument for calling these people into an abusive situation is they are the only option we have right now. This argument is only valid if it is believed that the police are actually beneficial and are working for the ends they claim. They are not. Their stated goals only serve as cover for their predatory behavior. Their only purpose is to intimidate people into complying with the dictates of statists including themselves. They make up false accusations to get arrests. They cowardly target those who pose no harm while ignoring those who are a real danger. They prey upon those who appear unable to defend themselves. Sounds like the behavior of an abusive parent, right? The victims of the abuse hang onto the delusion that their abusers are there to protect them. The state is clearly just an extension of the dysfunctional family. To call in predators to deal with predators is to support predators. It's possible that my experiences with cops and other similar types are very different from what many others experience. The Ontario and British police may be mostly nice fellows in some areas. Maybe Stef's suggestion comes out of his wishful thinking that calling them will be productive or that someone could have called and prevented abuses done to him. Maybe he is still hanging onto the myth of a savior coming in to solve a problem. Letting go of this faith in imposed authorities leads to the uncomfortable reality that there is no protector. If we can tolerate this reality, we can begin to form new solutions that may actually benefit those who are being abused. It will take a long time to get these solutions to a productive level, but we have to begin. And we can't begin if we continue to live in the fantasy of a cop or CPS worker coming in and saving children. Building a free society involves de-normalizing abuse and seeing it for what it is, and those who tolerate abusive "authorities" are those who have normalized abuse. This meme of normalizing abuse is what needs to be destroyed. The meme of attachment to an abuser as is so common in the most abusive cultures must be destroyed. I'm sure many of you have noticed that insulting a person's mother is taken most personally by those who have the most abusive mothers. This is a painful reality that musty be exposed. So what are the solutions? I don't know. But focusing on spreading new memes is the best solution right now. Model positive interactions. Break down the free society, or more appropriately a transitional society, into the memes that comprise it. Advertise these memes so thoroughly that children who are unsatisfied will begin to question societal norms. Make the questioning of parents a normal behavior. Get it into discussion. Some ideas I have are posting billboards with lines such as: "Mothers who love don't hit." "Mothers who love don't yell at children." "Respect Children" "Break the cycle. Respect children." A business idea I have had that is probably not yet possible is a business made up of people who go around to homes where abuse is suspected and simply discusses peaceful parenting while empathizing with the frustrations of the parents. It would take the right kind of people to do this, something I am not. I think it may also have to wait until after some of the memes of questioning parents have been promoted sufficiently. This would also have to be funded on a donation based model something I also cannot afford. I have other ideas and am open to suggestions from anyone who is interested in this idea. Your feedback will be appreciated.

Yes, I didn't have alcohol in my childhood, but this added clarity for me. The more I sort out about my past, the less anxiety I have around people.

Considering that much of recent philosophy is relativistic, their negative view of recent philosophers is valid. n