Jump to content

pretzelogik

Member
  • Posts

    237
  • Joined

  • Days Won

    4

Everything posted by pretzelogik

  1. I am not critizing the theory, and have made a point of not doing so. I am simply asking for evidence of nuclear explosions. The evidence provided for such (imagery and narrative, both of which are provided by the entity resposible for the creation of the bomb hoax, namely the state) does not pass the authenticity test. In a forum dedicated to anarchy one would hope to find a lesser degree of unquestioning reverance for state narrative, but apparently not when it comes to the technology of the state.
  2. The OP referenced Heiwa's claim about the theory, which may or may not be correct on paper. My point is that the smashing two pieces of metal together, enriched or not, can create enough force to level a city is an extraordinary claim. The one making the claim should be the one to provide the evidence of the claim, not the other way around. There may be equations that say a mag lev train could get from New York to Tokyo in 30 minutes and they may be absolutely undebunkable. That does not mean that such a thing exists. Proof is demonstration in the real world. So far, everything provided as evidence of nuclear bombs (imagery and narrative) has major problems as far as source of origin, continuity, signs of compositing, contradiction and simple logic. My question to you would be: "What is it about the narrative of nuclear bombs that makes you want to continue to believe it?" I find it to be a tremendous relief that psycopaths who could and certainly would employ such devices do not have the means at their disposal to do so.
  3. This clip used in this analysis was taken from an official release and was one of many (if not all) of the official releases which have the same indicators of compositing that were used to sell the A bomb story. Imagery, including photographs was the primary method of conveying the narrative, but fails under scrutiny. Does the perfectly symmetrically expanding ellipse in the above footage look real? The second method was eyewitness accounts, which conflicted with one another despite being controlled by the military and press. The third was reporting by the creators themselves. (Holllywood can be included here and in the imagery category, as the narrative is continued through the nuclear plot device in numerous movies and television shows, as well as in the "news") There are numerous sites with exhaustive research into the anomalies of the narrative: "nuke hoax" or "nukes don't exist" will keep the genuinely curious busy for weeks.
  4. I keep looking forward to the day when media fakery and hoaxes are seriously analyzed on this forum. I had hoped this might be a thread that would stir curiousity for deep research into historical government and media claims: who the players are, what the primary documentation purports, whether conflicting images can be resolved, etc. It is an uphill battle as reports from the media are generally sacrosanct. Stefan is constantly critical of the media, their spin, distortions, framing, editing, misrepresentations, and even lying, but the idea that an event could be created out of whole cloth is never considered. Is it possible that it is not mere coincidence that the first Deputy Administrator of NASA, T.Keith Glennan, was a former studio manager for Paramount and Samuel Goldwyn studios? He also served as a member of the Atominc Energy Commission, which provides one of dozens if not hundreds of links between Hollywood, NASA and atomic weapon perception management. Even to this day the perception of nuclear weaponry is primarily managed through Hollywood in TV shows like 24. Saving the world from nuclear apocolypse is an evergreen plot device. The state is constantly exposed here for its contradiction, manipulation and prevaricarions, but the the idea they would rely on hoaxes to continue their fleecing of the public is not entertained, even as a thought experiment. I believe this has to do with the idea that once the first hoax is exposed, one's entire perception of history unravels, the same way childhood trauma becomes exposed when the idea that "Taxes are theft" is understood. On the plus side, I worry about any nuclear threat nowadays about as much as I worry about the sun refusing to rise. Which is saying a lot, as I vividly recall the terror that was instilled in me during the cold war. I also remember the printed, posted instructions on how to respond to a nuclear attack, one of which was "...place head between knees," (after which a graffiti comic would invariably pencil the words: "Then kiss your ass goodbye!")
  5. Science is interchangeable with authority.
  6. I am glad this topic has been raised. I went to a therapist once when I was in my 20s (many years ago). He was probably in his 60s and was well dressed in a dark suit, maybe with a tie. We sat in chairs facing each other, he crossed his legs to support the tablet he was about use for notes and when he did, his slacks hiked up from his ankles exposing his socks. The socks were full of holes. Like, a LOT of holes. Moth eaten or sommething. I could think of nothing else. Is this a test? Is he waiting to see if I comment? Can he not afford a new pair of socks? If not, why am I seeing such a lousy therapist? Does he dress in the dark? Am I being shallow for noticing and caring about this guy's dress socks that look like they were used for target practice? I never went back. Too harsh?
  7. I would love to see an actual unadulterated photograph of one of these space contraptions. Edit: The orignal video could be construed as an excercise in NLP, rife with opportunities for innuendo, scripted to cause a furor. The shirt is iciing on the cake. The question should be: "why would anyone think there is a space contraption landing on a comet?"
  8. How can we be certain that the video and photographic images that support the narrative are not simply digital creations, fabricated in advance and prestented as "live"? If the images purporting to have captured the same event at the same time dramatically conflict with one another, which ones are "real"? Would it be possible for six free lance photographers to coincidentally stand within arm's length of one another and click their shutters in the same 1/1000th of a second to capture high speed motion from exactly the same perspective? And later have this same image credited to six different photographers in separate publications? What is the chain of custody of the video and photographic evidence? Does it's presence on a major network sanction its status as authentic, prima facie, with no further need for investigation? Is it reasonable to assume that the media could not create and air "news" stories the same way any other network program is created and aired, empolying all the visual creation techniques of a Hollywood studio? Is the purpose of the news to inform, sell advertising or manipulate public opinion? What is the media's relationship to the military? These questions should be digested and pondered before moving on to verifying or debunking the phisics of melting steel and the like.
  9. These answers are non-responsive. "time immemorial" is an assertion, not evidence. Common ownerships is mutually exclusive of individual ownership. Experience of siblings squabbling over a property bequeathed by inheritance is demonstration. How is it possible to be "anti-Semitic" when the definition of Semite is so nebulous? It cannot be determined by blood, it is conversion to a "nation" which is a concept, or a religion, which is interpreted in as many ways as there are people that presume to practice it. I have Jewish friends who do not observe dietary customs, attend temple or dress in any manner that would indicate to anyone who does not know them that they are Jewish. I often see others dressed in ways that identify them as such. From your earlier statements, I could undergo some transformation process whereby I could be accepted as a Jew and would immediately have a right to emigrate to Gaza and forcibly remove someone from their house. None of this makes any sense to me.
  10. What evidence do you rely on to state that a particular parcel of land was in possession of a particular group of people at a particular time? Was Abraham the first person to ever inhabit the entirety of what is now know as Israel? In the case of a conflict between two Israelis, how is the highest claim decided? Say if an American Jew were to emigrate to Tel Aviv , would he have an automatic right to beach front property if no one was living on it? Is there such a thing as a real estate market in Israel? How does one Jew have a right to "sell" land to another Jew if it is all owned collectively? You have used the term "anti-Semitic" several times. Can someone be opposed to the actions of a particular person of Jewish heritage without being "anti-Semitic"?
  11. Could it not be said that current occupiers are using their land as defense? Is the statement about genetic material taken to mran that a blood or DNA test could be used to determine whether a person is part of a nation? Is the government apparatus of Israel funded through taxes? (I understand a portion of US tax dollars is directed to the Israeli government apparatus.)
  12. If conquering is accepted as a way to acquire property (for example, US vs. Cherokee, et al), how can there ever be a violation claim to any disputed territory? The territory will revert to the conquered once they reconquer it. Rinse, repeat. I don't understand the argument for rights or legitimacy, though.
  13. Those are circcular definitions. An armed robber's household is run by the use of force. Is that govvernment?
  14. Just to play devild's advocate here: In above clips of the Muslim example, all we see are cutway shots of a crowd raising their hands. There is no way of verifying whether the crowd is the same one as the one the speaker is addressing in the clips, or whether they are responding to the audio track in the clip. This could be a legitimate clip, but video is easily and regularly manipulated to steer perception and opinion. It would take no time at all to cut something together like this that would be a complete distortion of the actual event.. There's no denying the Wendy thing, though.
  15. Does the fact that the earth is hurtling around the sun at 67,360MPH have an impact on the relativistic effects of space travel?
  16. So, another euphemism to camouflage the violence and corruption. Got it. It's always fun to hear them talk about "borrowing from ourselves", as well..
  17. My mind reels every time I hear the phrase "borrowing from the future". We cannot borrow from the future, unless I am unfamiliar with the lastest innovations in time travel transportation and distribution. Everything that is ever "borrowed" from the future is here and in exsitence, in the present. Those who did not use those resources may be required to relinquinsh their resources at some time in the future. But would that not be more like a thief robbing someone and using the justification that it was for a meal he ate last week?
  18. Thank you for taking the time to helping me work though some of the issues I am having with the Einsteinian physical model. Are the clocks set up in way that they are launched in tandem as a sort of dual stopwatch activated at the same instant? There is at least one paper critically reviewing the Hafele-Keating experimental data: http://www.shaping.ru/congress/english/spenser1/spencer1.asp I have read other studies that bring up the effects of acceleration on the clocks which could cause inaccuracies. Also, the paper by H.E.Retic here: http://mysite.verizon.net/retiche/Physics/hoax.htm Apparently there is an objective rebuttal to H.E. Retic's arguments on the interwebs, but I have only seen commentary. And many of the links to arguments on both sides are wrapped around tangential topics like race and economic persuasion and are useless in furthering understanding. I have some other questions about satellites and GPS, as well, namely regarding why I have been unable to find a single actual photograph of a satellite from any manufacturer. I am very curious as to why these manufacturers aren't more forthcoming with their inventory. I am not particularly attached to an answer; so far most of my exploration has yielded admonishments to hit the books until I have a grasp of the abstactions and once I understand how the symbols on the paper coincide my understanding of reality will be enhanced somehow. It's doubtful that I will be building circuit boardsand learnign GPS code in the near future, I was hoping for something more direct, like the moon's effect on tides, or understanding electricity and atoms by the way smaller and smaller electron pathways are used in computer chips. But I do appreciate the recommendations and maybe I will check into it one day. Thanks.
  19. What is space, exactly? Until recently, I understood it to be a vacuum,i.e.a void, as opposed to an object, which could properly be described as curved. How can nothing be curved? As far as time goes, how can a unit of measurement become dilated? If an inch becomes dilated, it is no longer an inch. If the object being measured is dilated, one would not redifine the unit of measure in terms of dilated object. More importantly, can anyone explain their personal experience of relativity? Can anyone give me an example of how I can personally experience curved space, time dilation or any other phenomenon of Einsteinian physics that does not require blind acceptance of the opinions of those in advamced positions of the intellectual heirarchy?
  20. Einstein and relativity are absolutely and undeniably correct, although the equations and phenomena are beyond most people's cabability of understanding or experiencing directly. Not to worry, sanctioned and well-qualified experts are sorting this complicated stuff out and will deliver their writs as soon as their complicated, inacessible and incredibly expensive and impratical experiments are verified by other sanctioned and well-qualified experts.
  21. Supposed offender is 29 3.6 Million dollars seized Arrested at 3:15 pm using library internet Genius coder puts out easily traceable request for hitman on Silk Road on March 27 There are hit men for sale on Silk Road? Libertarian Devotee of the Austrian school Voluntaryist Silk Road and Tor network raid linked to child pronography Made tens of millions of dollars, used library computer to run illicit business and cannot afford an attorney Available images of supposed offender show signs of digital manipulation/creation
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.