NigelW

Hello, I am on the verge of moving out of my current apartment and into a 1 bedroom. My sister is my roommate and I feel guilt and fear after making calls to view other apartments. I've made my decision to leave and I am planning to by the end of the month. It seems very hard to see what I have to look forward to from where I sit. I caught my sister in conversation trying to explain my reasoning for wanting to move out and she said that "you just hate people, you need to have your own space and that's ok." I would have accepted that in the past, but now I am starting to think it had nothing to do with me, at all. I let my sister move in with me because we we're family and she wanted to find work as there was no fulltime steady work where she lived that was entry level. I ignored the fact that she had spent the last couple years living on disability and living on psych. meds. I am terrified of her going nuts and blaming me for everything. How the hell do you hold a crazy person responsible? I don't know if I can get away from my family. There is always something or someone that pulls me back. If it's not being financially passive aggressive it's assassinating my charactor. I'm just so numb and irritated that I can't take it anymore. The idea that if I give her another couple months to get herself together so that she can get a job is fading and I am starting not to care at all. I am not sure why I am posting a justification.

So, it's pretty unavoidable and I don't really have a choice. I wonder why it's so difficult for me to accept that I am paying taxes and that thoses taxes are going to fund things that I have not consented to. It's really frustrating! I saw how my father dealt with his problems by drinking, being absent, etc.. I've taken on some of those behaviors. How should I look at taxation if my goal is to get resources? If my perspective seems out of place it would probably be due to isolation and a strong urge to play World of Warcraft! I need to know that what I am doing is going to help solve the problem of taxation, child abuse, etc. I'd like to know that I am helping in some way? I do donate but I think I could be doing so much more. I could promote videos but I don't have friends on facebook and I rarely meet people in my daily life. I am not sure why, but I am crying and my throat is getting tight. Thanks, Nigel

I've often heard Stefan say that the middle class is being exploited. Not being an economist, I'd like to know why this is the case. I feel angry. Especially because I just finished college and have started a job that doesn't pay minimum wage. Thanks, Nigel

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I am lost for words

I began journalling for the first time since returning to college. I found the phrase "everything will be alright" ENRAGING. It was often something my father would say whenever something devastating would happen in my family. Things such as divorce, psychotic episodes, moving (yearly), dropping out of high school, dropping out of university, dropping out of college, and being bullied at school. I feel such anger at this phrase. I've noticed that my initial response to positive people is skepticism and I've been shamed for being skeptical towards them. "Skepticism is a lack of information!". Fucking hell. When I was a kid I remember even acting out and screaming at him. He STILL said, "everything is going to be OK." Fucking madness! No matter what I do, it's OK. My mother was quite similar. "Wait until your dad gets home!", "You kids are out of control!". Parenting is a verb, from what I understand, and they suuuuuuucked at it. Wow. It's no wonder I chose to play World of Warcraft and drop out of high school. The worst part about that is the time spent playing WoW was AT MY MOTHERS PLACE. She would continually say "where is your father?", "your father should take care of you kids!". So. I was modelled some pretty crazy shit. I suppose I am looking for someone to agree with me and tell me that it is in fact crazy and not say, for once in my life, "you just lack information". (I feel really sad here).

Ok so, if there are positive outcomes to grandparents sticking around their grandchildren and I plan to be in a position to positively impact their lives, then why is it a bad thing? It would make sense if I were trying to exploit them. That would be bad. If I exploit my children, then I will face the consequences. If I love my children, then I will also face consequences. I’ve seen the consequences of focusing on money at the cost of family life. My grandfather has a house and his kids are moving back in with him, my father included. A shot in the dark, but maybe a focus primarily on a monetary retirement is a lack of trust in the future reciprocation?

Hello and thank you for taking the time to read my post! Raising children is a one of my lifelong goals. I think my goal in this post is to see if anyone has been thinking along the same lines or if I've been talking out of my hat! If I were to have children, would it be beneficial to live with them when I can no longer work? I mean to say that my retirement plan would be to live with my kids and help raise my grand children. http://www.aarp.org/relationships/grandparenting/info-03-2009/goyer_grandparents_moving_in.html I suppose the view I had growing up is that the man of the house is to save enough for his own retirement.

I am listening to 'career concer and parental abandomment'. I am going to incorporate the phrase "...to them" into my life. Thank you so much Stefan.

I have a couple questions! How would a lack of attachment as a child show up in decision making as an adult? How do you correct or change as an adult?

I like the idea, but I wonder if there would be a way of testing whether it could gain any traction. Do you know of anyone who has been successful in doing this and are they contactable?

The goal is to expose people to bitcoin, it will sell itself. I’m trying to focus on what I can control and I think if the goal is to promote bitcoin in a way that gets people to a coffee shop, restaurant or shop online, then I should practice what I preach more so. If I don’t even spend $20 in bitcoins a day, how can I expect others to? I think educating myself in depth on what bitcoin is capable of will be important. Does anyone have an idea of how to approach it? Can you tell me more about what you mean when you say click solution? In terms of a vision, I want to be able to get into a conversation with anyone in my city and they know what bitcoin is and how to use it. I also want to hear about how they bought a gift or went for coffee with friends paying in bitcoin. I want them to know why they use it and why others would benefit from using it in the long run. Not a hyper intellectualized description, but a convicted reason.

It may sound lame, but if it is true that bitcoin is as revolutionary as it has been claimed to be then why would I not invest time and money into promoting bitcoin in that way. I’m a single bachelor with no kids, so I think I can afford to invest in something I believe in. I know bitcoin is easy to use and even easier to control. (Phone app and no bank account) I think I may start a relationship with a broker, buy and give bitcoins away. Enough for a coffee? It gets the app into their hands and incentivizes them to try it out. I know that I said that I wanted to start a business and I am not sure how I got to giving stuff away, haha. It doesn’t make any sense from a money making standpoint, but I would love to promote bitcoin in my own way. I don’t know if there is any possibility to make money from increasing bitcoin volume here in town. I think it would be marketing, but I mean all I would be doing is talking with people and adding value by exposing alternatives to people. Personally, bitcoin blows my mind.

@DFPercush, @VolT I would like to get involved precisely because there is bureaucracy. I know little of bitcoin itself, but I’ve used it at a local coffee shop and used it online but I have not done any major transactions. Hell, I don’t even know what it means to be an entrepreneur; I work a 9-5 job culture. I think making bitcoins even easier to get into your hands would be a goal for the reason above. What that looks like? Well I have no idea, exactly. The goal is to get bitcoin into people’s hands, not necessarily to make money. I don’t know that most people would find it comfortable to research a new type of currency so leading by example might be the best approach. It could even be a cause. Why not give away bitcoin just to get it into people’s hands? Let me know what you think.

You say do it, but I don't know where to start. Lol

Stef's videos lately have really pissed me off. He's right... damnit. lol

You know I was thinking about something Stef had said. People who pretend to think don’t want to face the fact that they can’t think. I think that has been my tendency for sure and I want to improve. The last thing I want to do is become someone who destroys virtue because the effects are terrifying. It is scary thinking about the idea that you maybe another zombie, but it’s more liberating. Because then I can actually learn to think for myself and not become a sophist. I loath glib and self righteous acolytes. I will steer the conversation to avoid the World of Warcraft references! @WasatchMan Thank you for your response! A lot of that went over my head, but I’ll do my best. So if someone does not value man’s life then they do not value choice which would, correct me if I am wrong, not be UPB compliant because the evil person is simultaneously valuing his life and choice, while denying it to others. He is stealin! So, for this person to correct themselves they would have to either devalue their life or value other people’s lives. And also, not value his choices or value other people’s choices. If the value is choice and he values it for himself and devalues it for others, then that is no UPB compliant, amirite? @Pepin Wow, I appreciate the clarification. I thought that the purpose of a value was to correct behavior instantaneously, but committing to a particular behavior in the future makes a lot more sense and I feel relieved. Ah, so values only have to do with the future, not the present? The change in behavior is acted out between the present and the stated future value. If I say that I value something, then it is a prediction about the future. Eg, I value equal trade. If I take actions to exchange value for value then I can hold that as a value and verbalize it. If I don’t take the actions necessary, then I don’t hold that as a value and cannot verbalize it without being a counterfeiter. Correct? Ok, so the goal is to manifest your will. If I want to love someone, love being the value, then I will take actions between now and stated future value(sometime before I become 400 years old). If I do not take action then I cannot claim to have the value of love because I have not taken action. Is that correct? So when looking at people and their stated values, if they have values that they cannot take action towards or physically manifest, then they’re nuts? What a relief. If someone was to say that they love McDonalds so much, while never going would it be true that they devalue McDonalds? I guess if someone is a sophist, they could sell McDonalds quite well. Thank you for taking the time to explain, Pepin!

Hello, I am seriously considering becoming an entrepreur. I have no particular idea what that looks like other than being paid for performance, investing long hours, and having ownership. My business education is amatuer. I have theoretical knowledge, but little practical. I would love to start a bitcoin business that provides a service or education.I am looking for people who have made a similar transition to give me a little direction. Thank you, Nigel

@Kevin I bought a white board and write my issue out along with the feeling. I detach the event from my feeling and write out questions continually. I’d like to incorporate another habit into my day! I will aim to try again tomorrow sometime because I didn’t make it a huge priority today, not sure why. @tiepolo I thought about this on the way to work, or whatever passes for thinking in my noggin! Values can be infinite and their worth is determined over time. I can value McDonald’s, but over time that may lead to health problems. So if I value truth but I am constantly using an empty can with a piece of string to contact a friend on the other side of the country, then I would not have integrity? Ok, makes sense. What I really want to know or would get a lot of value from is a way to organize my values, I’ve been goin bonkers trying to find out what I value, truthfully. @Pepin I appreciate the correction regarding existence! Oh man. Nihilism is so tempting, but at the same time, not so much! One thing I still struggle with is knowing when I am making sense in a conversation and when I’m spewing nonsense. I’ve adopted ‘center-point’ breathing to help with my anxiety, but it still takes hold some times. I don’t know how many times I’ve listened to podcasts regarding the self. I have to apply my knowledge, I’m just not sure how. I’ve set a goal to get into 1 conversation a day and it’s going well. How do you get less dissociated? It’s one of those things that I can’t seem to grasp. I think I understand the idea of arranging concepts into broader concepts for organization. A house contains furniture, walls, ceilings, hardwood, etc. that makes the house. If I was raised to think that a square was a circle and you a square a square, I’d risk social consequences for sure. I suppose one thing for being a social gadfly is that after a certain time ya just stop caring at all. I’m definitely not perfect and I think you nailed it. I’ve noticed that when I say things that are true I feel calmer for sure. I used to lie, a lot. Oh! I am lacking Zzz’s as well but I wanna make sure I respond, as I’ve lacked consistency on this forum in the past. If I say I value being ‘good’, I am implying moral behavior, not stealing, not killing, etc. If someone is raised to think that ‘good’ is to meet the expectations of others there would be a conflict, for sure. I should know, I’ve been there. So if I understand you correctly. If I say I value riding a bike and eating food that is low in saturated fats it would be a lot easier to say that I value health. That makes sense! I don’t know enough about the mind to know if that’s true or not, but it seems consistent. Thanks for staying up to post Pepin! I may be over complicating this! Is the purpose of a value or ideal to correct behavior? If that value does not change behavior is it useful? Is the worth of a value is determined by whether it gets you to where you wanna go? I’m tempted to say that values are based on what you’re focusing on. Or like you said Pepin, an act of the conscious will. If my goal was to focus on finding God (stay with me) then I would be focusing on something that does not exist. Or something that is not true. I would really like to know what the effects are of believing in God. Anyways, I think that’s good for a post. I look forward to your responses, have a great night! (Bad grammer, I know.)

Im jumping over a vew responses here but I am curious. Is the purpose of a value to correct behavior?

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@ Kevin I’d like to incorporate the sentence completion program into my routine, starting Monday. I trust your judgement, although I am not 100% sure I see the value in it. @ Cynicist Simple truths are awesome! I find myself trying to streamline my thoughts and I see the value in complex thought but if it’s explainable in a simple form it provides immense value to me. The time spent simplifying a thought gives me more time to think about it and apply it. @ Kevin I can see confronting racist slave owners as uncomfortable, for sure. So the resistance that Stef is talking about is speaking the truth despite immorality? I think this is where I get confused on what courage is. Anyone can be a fool, but I am not sure I fully understand what is meant by acting with courage despite immorality. I think standing up to abusive parents is amazing, but how would a fool go about it? Hi Pepin, thanks for joining. I like your approach. I think that’s true, because human action is constrained by reality. (Note: even muscle builders on roids) Nothing against bodybuilders! Most people are of different capabilites. I suppose that withing the limits of growth, a lot can change. To say that it is always the case that which did not exist cannot exist needs to be proven so. Stef didn't just say the state was immoral, he wrote a several books on why that is the case. He speaks and talks to people who want hope. I watch Stef's recent video on disproving immoral people without any examination. If you say that something does not exist without knowledge of what existance is, isn't that as bad as claiming that something exists without proof? I think this is true. If values are a reflection of action, you cannot be simultaneously eating healthy and destroying your body. Haha! Makes perfect sense. Actions determine your values, so what you do is an appropriate way to measure your ability to act and manifest your will. Makes sense! I think it’s true. I think this is in line with assigning appropriate levels of responsibility. If someone is acting out emotionally, they are responsible for that as an adult. How do you know if a decision is unconscious or conscious (assuming this is what you mean by ‘will’). I get stuck at the idea that the Will will be the prime determinant of the future action. You mean like a train roaring down the train tracks with momentum? I don't know what a high level abstraction is or how they are formed. Is that the building of confidence? Is it to do with reaffirming values or repeating actions and seeing the positive results? At what point can you say that what you value is true and build on that? (Recovering perfectionist) So if I value high level abstractions, then I value positive results. If I value health, then I value eating healthy etc. (I feel scared typing this, not sure whyyyyy) If I value a can of pop and I pay for it, then that dollar (or so) goes to paying for shipping etc. I don’t just value the pop but the system that has brought the delicious beverage to my fingertips. I may have missed the point, but why is that not a productive way of thinking about value? You can say that you value communication. That would encompass your computer, internet, and whatever else is responsible for making it possible. So you could work to maintain that system. I had to read through your post a couple of times to understand (Heavy stuff). You said that high level concepts are abstractions of the will? I think I understand. How are potential actions chosen if not by conscious will? How can you know that? Oh you mean like trying to bike by pedalling backwards? It works when you’re going downhill! Haha So, are you saying that will is result of high level abstraction? The choice to do something comes after the abstraction? I may be scewing your meaning, I apologize. Let me know if I'm incorrect Did light have to exist before the eye evolved? @WasatchMan I could be talking out of my hat here, but what I am getting from this is that choice is required to have values and without choice virtue can not exist. I just had a thought, not sure if it’s particularly helpful, but see where it goes. If I am acting in self defense and I value my life, then I will act to defend myself. If I value choice and someone aims to take that choice away from my through force and not reason and evidence then I can respond in kind. I wonder if the need to have highly abstract concepts is a response to a threat or force? If I am thinking of how to avoid a threat, it seems natural to think carefully.

And by good values you mean actions/ habits that produce a healthy result? Ofcourse! That makes perfect sense. I've honestly never understood what postponed gratification was. When I was a child, I remember thinking of it as a form of torture! (kidding) Is virtue always uncomfortable? Can you think of a metaphor for this one? Well if I wasn't taught how to clean my room or persuaded to, but was bullied into doing it and the events were random, then it would make sense that I wouldn't clean my room. I will save that link and try that exercise in the morning. I agree that it's important and thank you again!

Yes, I think the comparison is important, for sure compared to not. If I compare an action in the past to the effect today, I can see how worth can be determined. (Insert farming metaphor) I can also see how reasoning my way toward understanding somethings worth and acting consistently can show that I value something. It would be the reverse of the above. Like a neighbour explaining to me how awesome his crop was this year and how to get the same results. Amirite? Hmm, not sure why I'm so curious about this topic. I feel like a kid when I talk about simple topics like this. Hah! It's nice to get some feedback. Most people I ask about values either start talking about nonsense or look at me wide eyed and change the topic. Thank you for your thoughts Kevin!

I'd like to share my perception on what values are and, if possible, be corrected. Values are measured by your actions. So if you change your actions, you can change your values. I value language because I use it every day to survive. I value truth because I'm asking for help in my understanding. I value other people's perspective because I am asking for it. It may a view that is too simple, but I would like feedback. Thank you, Nigel

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