SamuelS

I hate it when they do that crap...I'm not familiar w/ squirrelmail, but perhaps you could put it on port 80 or 8080?

Maybe you should study anarcho-capitalism before you try to bash it and miss entirely. In this conversation what you're calling capitalism is more like cronyism or corporatism. I bet you'd get a lot of answers if you asked questions instead of making wild assertions.

Well, you're already doing it My approach is to read a site for a while (lurking) then join in the discussion if I find it interesting. Usually I'll check the "new content" page to see what is actively being discussed, then dig into the various sub-forums to see what's already been discussed. There's also a chat option for real-time conversations.

you say you can't afford therapy...I would look at it that you can either get therapy, or most likely be estranged from your child(ren) once (t)he(y) reach adulthood. how can you not afford therapy in this situation? somebody's gonna have to get therapy, better it's you than your children down the road. a quick google search for "effective anger management strategies" comes back with 1.2 million results...I checked a few of the links and while some of them give justifications that I don't feel are appropriate here, the strategies themselves could be quite valuable.one of the first links said something related that I found to be quite interesting, which may be useful in motivating you:"Frequent anger poses health risks too. One study found that people who get angry regularly are more likely to suffer from coronary heart disease, eating disorders, and obesity. Research has also found a correlation between anger and premature death. Further studies have found that there is a link between anger and conditions such as anxiety and depression."

I can't imagine it's going to change if you keep making excuses for your behavior. His desire to be in charge seems perfectly reasonable to me, as he's likely more in control of himself than you are yourself. I don't have any good answers, but step one is stop excusing yourself. "but I just get so overcome with anger in the moment" and "then something stupid will set me off"... Learn some self control, man, I'm sure your son is expected to control himself better than you have. A bit ridiculous and hypocritical, don't you think?

My answer may well be entirely incorrect, but Nigel clarified his question in his second post to the thread and my answer was given with that context in mind. I get the impression that you're implying self knowledge is not a valuable thing to pursue...or did you just mean in context of the "state of nature" definition in the 1st reply by marinalist?

Yes, I think it does. That would explain why so many avoid knowledge like it's the plague.

I think what Stef means when he says that is that you're in a natural state of ignorance...if you haven't examined a thing and just do whatever "default" society has programmed you with, you're not acting out of malice so much as out of ignorance to the implications and alternatives.

Science comes out of philosophy, as long as science is alive, philosophy must be alive and well. It's sad that such a brilliant mind with such reach doesn't even understand the origins of his own discipline.

You really don't need to do anything at all. I do think it's good both to avoid hypocrisy and to live by the truths you discover. I also think it's good to share those truths, but I would not want to feel compelled to do so. I take "no rulers" to the extreme, I don't even want to rule over myself, except when I do want to!

I think I may have stumbled into an untenable position here, or at least one that I don't really want to promote, as I think we're very much in agreement on the implications and virtuous application of philosophy... but let's see where it goes... I think you're conflating marketing of philosophy with philosophy itself, as per the definitions above. I'm not sure where the confusion on this lies. Perhaps you find my definitions unacceptable, if so please do propose alternatives. If Stef sat alone on a mountain top, thinking about these same things, would he cease to be a philosopher? I don't think so, but the effect of that philosophy would be greatly reduced. Much as the horse rider would still be riding a horse even if he couldn't get the horse to go the right direction or anywhere at all. To measure the process by its effects would seem to me a very frustrating endeavor. Was Einstein any less a mathematical genius when the effects of his work were nuclear bombs? Is Stef any less a philosopher because many people refuse to listen to his arguments for irrational reasons?

The goal of a person that uses philosophy should not be confused with philosophy...a horse rider may have the goal of getting from point A to point B, but that has no bearing in whether or not they are, in fact, riding a horse. Does that make sense? I think it is an admirable goal to try to spread the truth and the methodologies by which it is discovered, but to me, to call that philosophy is to conflate marketing into the definition. I could be wrong, and I'm certainly fine with the honest marketing of philosophy...I'm not sure my nitpicking over definitons really matters, but I'm happy to continue exploring that. I am curious about your definition of convince -- what would you call it if one caused someone to believe something that is NOT true, or only incidentally true (such as an invalid method that still leads to the correct answer)?

It doesn't matter if you're convinced, what matters is if it is true. A rock falling on your head doesn't care if you accept that it does so, it is true that it does.Google defines marketing as:the action or business of promoting and selling products or services, including market research and advertising.If one values philosophy, it would seem to me consistent to promote the methodology and/or the conclusions. Not promoting either does not make the truth false, however. A tree falling in the woods makes a sound whether or not anybody hears it, it just doesn't matter.

Google defines philosophy thusly: the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline. A philosopher is one who practices philosophy. What you describe is closer to marketing/marketer. While the two can have some overlap, I wouldn't suggest they are the same. I would also keep in mind that the goal of marketing is first and foremost to persuade people, truth isn't always a part of that...I'd venture that it's almost never part of that.

Welcome :)I'd love to hear more about the farming in the desert thing -- like what crops are you growing, what challenges do you face (aside from the obvious, to me, short supply of water)?

I heard the same. I thought about mentioning it, then I thought the time required to edit that out and reprocess could likely be used much more effectively.

To answer the question about how a DRO would solve any particular problem you can think up, put yourself in the position of the DRO -- what would you do to allay the fears of your customers with regard to that problem? I would highly recommend a (re)listen to the first three podcasts that outline and defend the DRO model. The purpose of the "CAB" would be to minimize the "total cost of ownership" (for lack of a better term) of a child while maximizing the well being of that child by providing incentives to do so.Regarding the "value" of babies, that's a misinterpretation of the model I attempted to outline in that other post, and I take full responsibility for that -- I really need to re-write it at some point, for clarity and context if nothing else. The abortion part of that was my crack at extending the DRO model to address one of the most difficult interpersonal subjects which is a perennial source of political and philosophical controversy. It does this by incentivizing smart choices with regard to sexual partners, and, failing that, setting up incentives based purely on the (contractually bound, and conflicting) preferences of the individuals involved. I think it does that pretty well, but I haven't gotten any feedback (before yours) on it.I also try to be mindful of the conclusions of the study (linked below) that suggests GDP is only about 1/4 of what it would be if government regulations had stayed at 1949 levels. With that in mind, it seems perfectly reasonable that a person could enjoy the same standard of living they do now working 40hrs per week by only working 10hrs per week, or the corollary they could enjoy 4x the income at the same hours per week. I don't see why there'd be any need whatsoever for both parents to work, in a stateless society. http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jjseater/regulationandgrowth.pdf

I'm not sure why you keep bringing the socialist anticapitalist rhetoric into the equation, but here's a purely free market DRO-extension idea I had to incentivize good parenting -- https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/39294-child-advocacy-businesses-cab-as-an-extention-of-the-dro-model-and-resolution-of-abortion-disputes/

My first thought is that if you remove the state altogether you'll have far lower rates of single parent households, and no taxes, making the option for one parent to stay home much more realistic for most people. You do bring up some interesting questions though. I've seen aritcles that go both ways on the subject, and a meta analysis in reviewed in Psychology Today found no significant difference...I think controlled studies would be unethical if even possible. I'd like to think it wouldn't have to be a choice between daycare and abuse from parents, and that the lack of bondimg contributes to the abuse from parents, but I can't say I know. http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201010/is-non-parental-daycare-bad-children

I imagine that had to be frustrating to have more work than you could feasibly get done. The bakery scenario was what I was referring to, didn't sound nearly as unreasonable.

If that wasn't clear from what I stated, let me try again -- I felt abandoned and betrayed by my mother, this betrayal was repeated daily. The breakdown at drop-off time wasn't limited to me, nor was it limited to that center. My ex-wife worked in a daycare facility and it was all too common there as well. Your apparent lack of compassion is quite disturbing.

if it's an hourly job, can you really complain that they're keeping you busy?

neither.

nice strawman. one needn't drop bombs on populated areas to defend oneself...bombs for self defense, that's rich.

Volume6 is the "most recent" stream (where new content is added) -- https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/39916-forum-downtime-2014-05-09-starting-6pm-mdt/the others I agree aren't hard to find, at least on a PC, but nonetheless, are: feeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadiofeeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadioPart2 feeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadioVolume3Shows562feeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadioVolume4Shows898feeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadioVolume5feeds.feedburner.com/FreedomainRadioVolume6Shows2120-2575