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is this not also basically pantheism? Or have I misunderstood?

I wasnt arguing that your conclusion was wrong. That is, I wasnt saying you are wrong to say that psychological abuse is worse than physical abuse. I was saying that your reasoning for coming to that conclusion was incorrect.

Also, their mind is not just who they are. They are the body as well as the mind. Why is crimes against the mind worse than crimes against the body? None of this argument holds together in any real logical way

Did you actually make an agreement? IE, did you discuss it, negotiate over how long she could watch, back and forth, until you both agreed? If you did, then you can point out that she agreed and is breaking her agreement. Point out the negatives of breaking an agreement I am guessing you didnt actually negotiate and agree though. I would guess you just laid down what her screen time would be.

how are you planning to do these?

I didnt ask, why should we be peaceful, I asked ,why should treat people as equal, and how do you know that will bring peace?

yes, what does it mean when you say what does it mean to treat someone like an equal? Why do we have to do this? How do you know that it will bring peace to do that? I have to treat everyone as an equal?

Perhaps I am misremembering, but thats the way it seems to me when I think back, I think I was also unaware that it was a normal thing for most kids, or that other kids were doing it. Do you remember this from when you were a child? You remember wanting friends to come over, and you remember times when you were aware that other kids were having sleepovers etc?

what does this mean?

Are you talking about In-Group Preference? If so, what is wrong with that? Also, you are making white people into an "other" when you write stuff like this. But thats ok I take it?

So someone( who? a group of people, the media, who?) sat around a table and went, hmmmmmm, who can we persecute this decade? Ah! I know! Muslims! You cant see any reason why people might be at least distrustful and fearful? What is your conclusion from this fact ? IE, they have suffered greatly, therefore .....? What? Syria is such a terrible place, that someone needs to blow up a pop concert? Also, white priviledge? really?

Um what? Its a deterministic universe, the machine is 100% accurate, but somehow you can choose to jump up and down? and somehow thats not free will in a deterministic universe?

I dont think the idea even crossed my mind. Which seems strange, but I dont remember even thinking or wishing it. I suppose it could be an unconscious embarrassment of my parents, I was certainly embarrassed of them as a teenager. right, and I am wondering if its something that you get in the pre verbal stage, because it seems like such a natural fundamental thing to most people, and it does seem like I have something missing. Ye, I have realised that I am always wrong. If I do X to someone, I am wrong for doing X and upsetting them or hurting them. If they do the same X to me, I am wrong for getting upset or feeling hurt. I havent really anything to add, just wanted to say I appreciate your thoughts.

falsify it through what action? Only if there was free will. You keep coming up with these things where people in a deterministic universe display free will

But apparently in a deterministic universe, you can choose to feel despair and meaninglessness?

pretend she is from syria

In a deterministic universe, it perfectly possible for it to be determined that you believe that there is a point to doing something. Its possible in a deterministic universe, for you to believe that you changed your behaviour based on the knowledge of determinism. This does not prove free will or disprove determinism. again, your argument presupposes the existence of free will. "Look i chose to do something with free will! therefore free will exists!!"

I would say I am introvert. It wasnt always this way, no. Although I didnt really have friends when I was growing up, when I was at primary school there were people I would play with, I was involved in the outside world and the community and the social sphere of being outside and playing and interacting, if that makes sense. I dont think there was even 1 time where I ever asked someone to come to my house, I dont think the idea even crossed my mind as a possibility. I didnt have a "best friend" In secondary school I was pretty much alone, similar at college. With regard to my friends other friends, I think I am jealous. My impression is that he talks to them all the time, on twitter, discord , etc. Even when hes with me hes chatting to them, it seems. And when I have engaged him on chat or whatever, I get minimal response. It seems that he holds them in higher regard than he does me. Thats just my impression though. As to what those relationships are really like, I dont have any knowledge of that, except from a few exchanges that I have seen on twitter. Yes, you are right in a way. Its just that "I dont get it" is the overall feeling. Just confusion and incomprehension ( or something along those lines). Is it that I DO have a fucked up idea of what friends is? Or am I correct? maybe I AM being whiny? What does it all mean? How can I know? Why do people act the way they do? the thought going round my head when these sort of things happen is "I dont understand" Perhaps friend is a label to me, rather than an action. that is, if I have labelled someone a friend, then they get that label whatever they do. I dont know why it would be awkward. Perhaps because I am not used to being treated like that. I would be unsure that they were being honest. Yes, but HOW?

I think my portrayal of our exchange is accurate

You - youre wrong me - why? you - Im not going to tell you

It is pretty annoying to be challenged on something, and then when you ask for clarification, the other person goes "well, actually, Im not going to clarify" . pretty dishonest.

yes, he dodged my questions on that topic.

ye, ok, sure you werent trying to prove free will, just invalidate determinism. If free will is true, and I have a choice, then debating with me can change my mind( of course, this isnt invalidated by determinism, but you conveniently ignore that). You obviously dont believe in free will if you dont answer questions, because you dont believe that answering my questions can change my mind.

what? How do they have a choice? Wait, are you seriously pre-supposing the existence of free will, in order to prove free will?

huh? any determinist is automatically invalidated, according to you. So therefore why would you debate any determinist?