PatrickC

Depends what kind of statist they are. Marxists (self professed) are a lost cause in my opinion. They will wrap you in a word salad of their choosing. Arguments from sophistication (complication) will abound and just frustrate you.

The thing about empathy, is that it's not the same as sympathy. An empathic person is more likely to spot a sociopath than the other way round. Somebody that is easily sympathetic to anyone and everyone is certainly potential prey for a sociopath.

You just need to copy and paste the YT URL to embed. You can check it's embedded, if you go to the 'more reply options', before posting. Regarding this video. Yes I saw it last night on FB. It's the worst attempt at black comedy (with a propaganda twist) I've seen in a while.

Boris, for shame (J/K).. why are you continuing with this thread?. From land lubbers to lubbers of flesh, where are you going with this fella? Enuf I say..

Yes, this is the great utility in rejection. It's just useful information that allows you to focus on more productive things or better relationships. I'm a lot older now of course and been rejected too many times to mention. But now I understand the motives and ambitions of those women I take it a lot less personally than I did in my blue pill phase.

As the video Kevin posted highlighted. Women know what most men prefer to ignore. Although, it can and does happen the other way sometimes. It's just a lot rarer and for very different reasons compared to women. The female friend zoner is basically acquiring resources. Whether it's emotional support, physical labour, protection or a potential love interest if all else fails. This is in her biological nature. Which is why they are coy when pressed as to the intentions of their male friends. They don't want men to know and lose those resources. This might be why your friend railed at you MM.

As I said before, I'm not going to doubt that some people enjoyed their time at school or college even. Your school looks like a nice middle class suburban area. Which probably doesn't experience the behavioral issues you might find in an inner city school. I mean even from my shitty education I recall maybe 2 very good teachers. Even then it's hard to actually quantify what I learned from them. Other than thankfully a teacher that doesn't treat me with disdain. I knew of friends that went to the local grammar school who said they had an excellent time. Sure enough pupils often remained in touch with their school and teachers. It's true Mister Pips does exist. Personally I think it has a lot to do with sentimentality as much as indoctrination But the thing your critique overlooks or rather makes light of, is the enforcement part of state education. It really is the major objection anarchists have for it. From forcing kids to attend. Forcing the topics on them and forcing adults with or without children to pay for it from taxes. Not only that, but if you are a free market guy then it doesn't make sense that this kind of enforcement at all corners in education can make it at all efficient or of high quality. You say your schooling was good and high quality. I say compared to what? Compared to inner city schools or compared to a child that is allowed to make their own decisions about what they learn. Worrying that we might alienate some statist educated pupils from anarchism, I find rather ironic.

I was the only one to sell all of my work at my degree show, despite only being given a 2.2 grade. My father said nothing about my work. My mother only got excited when people were offering to buy my pieces. Not sure what any of that says, but it did irritate me silently in my head I recall. Definitely something to ponder on, now I think of it.

Keep stirring the pot of philosophy Steffers!

Well said Ruben! Yes, sadly this was true of my own art schooling. It really seems to attract the broken. I knew of at least 3 students that committed suicide at mine. One of them a girl who used to paint genitalia onto children's dolls. Looking back it was very clear unconscious explanation of her own childhood. People liked her work because it was dark and disturbing they said. Yeah people, that's a cue to ask her if she needs help, not congratulating her on her representation of her most horrid history.

Agreed, holding someone accountable for their actions, if I understand your definition, is a point of 'closure' after considering and perhaps engaging with them for further clarity. Blaming can be seen as a position from someone that has no wish to 'close' their history. Rather they might prefer to ingratiate in blame as a projection, rather than come to a logical conclusion that means they can abstain rationally and freely from that relationship. Hope that helps.

Yes, I think Peter, could have approached Joes criticism less obstinately. But then again that is Peter's way. Given all the idiot opponents he's faced in the past, it's not altogether unsurprising. However, I think Joe, whilst I might not have agreed with all his points made some interesting ones all the same. Particularly the fracking issue. I'm a little skeptical of it, given how much govts seem to drawn to it. Even after listening to good arguments for it. The jury is still out on it, environment wise.

Thanks for reminding me of this thread Magnus. I meant to come back to it, as I realised my comment could be taken as a little flippant. Yes, it can be and certainly I have met small town artists who use their art as a self-soothing technique. Certainly I am recently attempting to produce art myself, having spent some years now processing my life, dysfunctions and all. On the other hand we have the artists that are funded by the state or billionaire benefactors and collectors. I always remember Tracy Emin who won the Turner Prize in 1999 with her piece called, 'My Bed'. Which was a bed strewn with condom wrappers, empty vodka bottles and filled ashtrays. At her interview with the Turner committee she arrives drunk and basically starts being rude to each member. The funny part being how the committee handled her rudeness in typical British dissociated fashion. Roll on the future and she is now the professor of drawing at the Royal Academy of Arts. Laughably from a an artist who claimed she couldn't draw. Then you have an artist like this who decides to knit a scarf over 30 days from a ball of wool in her vagina. Her claim is that people are scared of vaginas. I've not met many people scared of vaginas myself. Scared of snakes and tigers sure, but vaginas? It's doubtful. I'm guessing it probably has more to do with her own feelings about vaginas. http://zbenavidez.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/cant-decide-can-you-come-back-to-me-japanese-artist-cooks-penis-for-table-of-five/ One of the worst story I heard. Was A Japanese artist that cut off his genitals and cooked them and served them to some of his friends. They were in full knowledge by the way, he didn't trick them. But this has given him a much larger platform as a successful artist.

Nice work fella!

nuff said!

I don't debate relativists, much like leftists, feminists or creationists.. And I recommend that to the whole board for what it's worth.

Nah, Ive been here long enough to know a leftist that wants to change the definitions of words.. Go ahead and attempt your buffoonery.. I will be behind you with my foot held out as you trip over it.

Oh I do..

I agree, sometimes it's just too risky or otherwise problematic. Not just for you, but the child in question. One should always approach oneself in this situation with gravitas and empathy before engaging in a possible confrontation.. But that said, with great understanding you can effect (for good) the presupposed inevitability.

Is tjx still changing the definitions of words.. Leftist sophist!

Sure parents might well have some experience above non parents.. But we're not talking about the nuances of child rearing that non parents may not be aware of. We are talking about hitting, shouting and humiliating children. It's a no brainer to those of the mind to empathize. Of course, the real problem isn't a lack of experience. It's just that almost every parent heard as a child in anger, "You have no idea what it's like to be a parent!". And so the beat goes on and on..... EDIT - Which BTW was just another form of child humiliation that was meant to render them helpless.

Ah, we have a relativist I see. BTW, violence doesn't need a better definition, it's you that wants it to have a better (different) definition. I would like my fridge to be filled with bars of gold. But alas wishes are indeed for the stars.

The reason why your argument isn't sound, is because you cannot universalise this behaviour. For instance, if I were tied to a post and watched my wife being raped. There is nothing I can do. Of course if I cheered them along whilst physically able to intervene, then my wife would no doubt want to divorce me and rightly so. Violence requires either some physical attack or restraint. Stop confusing good dictionary terms please.

Scuse any repetitiveness on my part. I am continually surprised by how many movies and series I can get interesting philosophical thoughts from. Despite this, I never watched Lost. But Kevin's analysis from being best in the first series to then becoming less interesting thereafter isn't the first time I've heard that. Which has always dissuaded me from watching the series seriously.

Contemporary fine art, whether those involved in it are conscious of it or not, likes to celebrate dysfunction.