PatrickC
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All valid points you have all made of course. However, I'm still sticking with the state monopolizing the business of dealing with litter. Sure, some people are scummy itinerants that will always litter, but most people don't as a rule. Youngsters coming away from a rock concert with hangovers is a clear hazard of course. :DPublic rubbish cleaning practice have basically not changed since the late 60's. It's an area that the govt has monopolized for so long that it basically makes innovation nigh on impossible. The only thing that has, is that In the UK it has become a money making exercise by local governments as they fine people for putting domestic rubbish into public bins.
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I'm with you TT.. That is what they call in philosophy circles, as 'getting to the point'.
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You touch on a very private thought I've only shared with a couple of close friends Wesley. Men do not experience intimacy to quite the same degree that women do. From the outside women get to experience touching and intimacy with their female friends all to often, which rarely happens amongst men, except in sporting events perhaps. Not that I'm suggesting men should necessarily exhibit that intimacy in quite the same way as women. But it kind of figures that we are often lacking in an important part of ourselves, as men. I'm not clear where that can improve for men entirely, but I consider it a distinctive difference that we don't share with women, if that makes sense at all.
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I feel some of your frustrations darksky.. You're like Batman that floats in unexpected like, to give the occasional KAPOW! -
Damn, that was a good post Lians.. Thanks for sharing.
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lol, I certainly have no problem with singing kumbaya as a lullaby to children, although I might just change some of the wording to be less religious perhaps The hippie part is the least offensive part for me at least. No, it's mainly the politics, the idea that communities should just exist in response to some ideal about people just 'getting along'. I think those communities or groups that thrive are the ones that share a mutual exchange with each other, through family or work.Sharing values of course would be primary, but the mutuality would be like the glue that held them together. This is just my opinion of course and yet to be put to the test. But for me I have seen communes come and go based on some rather flimsy (albeit rather nice) ideas, that just weren't practical. There has to be an element of fair exchange and mutual value for those communities to thrive I think.
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Well it's difficult to really understand your predicament. It seems litter has been a problem all my life. It's no surprise when the state monopolizes the service and only offer fines as a solution to littering. Of course poorer neighborhoods are less aesthetically pleasing environments to live in, so some of the residents care less about littering the place. Often it's the state made ghetto that has the worst cases of littering. As with any poor service, follow the money. It usually relies on state granted privileges that acts as a disincentive for them to improve. It's really not about people's behaviour. Whilst the state will indeed try to offload the blame onto litterers, this is just their way of deflecting criticism about the dreadful services they run or hand out.
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With all due respect you basically knighted me in this post. No one including others have suggested women cannot experience similar. Edit (after thought) I do appreciate that this topic can raise certain anxieties, not least for men. It's almost scripted that men will defend women. It's something I've grown very conscious of in myself and always question now before I leap to a conclusion. These are cultural traits that we are discussing mainly, that seemingly favour women. It's important to distinguish the difference, otherwise men will just close down.
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Great podcast Kevin... To Lians point, as an older chap I managed to navigate the angry cynic into a more dissociated state of compliance. Re-learning that has meant a few trips to the past and re-experiencing that deep resentment I had and often for reasonable reasons too.
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Go for it. I think it would be a great topic to discuss in a separate thread.
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Yes, that was a great response from Stefan. Thanks Wesley! I also have my doubts about celebrities and their ability to be agents of change myself. Bono is a prime example of this. But hopefully some of his audience might succumb to reason.
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I don't think anyone on this thread (or elsewhere), are waiting for women to connect with them first.
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Yes, this tends be my view too Lians. Women are perfectly capable of abstractions and it would be pompous to think otherwise. After all sociology is swimming with women making abstract claims about nurturing society. The cultural problem In my opinion (born out with some evidence), that it's just the rope that men are given to hang themselves (so to speak) is a lot shorter than the length given to women. This is a controversial view of course, because it's assumed by many women and importantly other men the complete opposite, that they are culturally disadvantaged by their gender. However, I think we've (inc me) deviated from the OP's initial question somewhat. It might be better if we took it to a new thread perhaps.
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He was only a guest editor from what I recall. nathanm, did you say Stefan had done an open letter about the interview? If so, please link old chap, as I can't seem to find it.
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Interesting point Mike and aids a better understanding of my anxiety relating to women becoming the agents of change. Of course it's entirely possible that they can be, but the losses (I feel) will outweigh the truth for many of them. That said, this could easily be my own impression of course, since there are women seeking to improve the lives of men and boys, beyond egalitarianism. They just happen to be few and far between.
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I think we should refer to this type of post as 'mystic' spam.
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oh la vache.. No Mishelle, my aversion (strange folk) would be leftist new age hippies.. Hippie being the least offensive part of course.
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This is why the NAP is a merely an axiom.. Try UPB and apply the 'coma test' to all the prescribed objections.
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Yes, the soviets were the best propagandists and not just in their own country, but also abroad as they encouraged cultural Marxism throughout the western world. The rouble may have died, but not the rhetoric.
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entitled sausage.. lol
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I like the idea of self reliance, when it comes to food and shelter, but preferably amongst a community of quality friends and family I suppose. Where we provide our own individual skills to that mix. However, I think I'm a long way from that ideal though, without involving myself with folk with some very strange ideas elsewhere.
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Yes, the only time I ever seriously considered a tat was whilst I was living in Australia and I was living within this surfers commune in Nimbin (east coast). Looking back now, with the odd exception, those folk were obsessed with having tats in the most painful of areas, such as underarms or around ankles. I remember holding a girls hand as she had her ankle done and she was weeping throughout the whole session. I asked the tatooist to stop to see whether she wanted him to carry on. She was like, 'no, no, carry on'. I decided there and then that I was never going to entertain the idea of having one.
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Yea, he occasionally has moments of clarity, particularly towards the end of this interview. But it's testament to the influence of cultural Marxism (and poor parenting) that he considers a socialist authority to be the best step forward. I'd quite like to hear a critique on it, the good and the bad. If only so that he might get to hear it himself. He's unlikely to do an interview without some special context I think. Just an aside Masonman, Russell is no longer a drug addict and hasn't been for a number of years.
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Take it from an old guy. Any person you have expressed deep feelings for (love), that then rejects those feelings, but still expects to be served by the most intimate and precious gift you offer them. yourself. Is not worthy of that kind of gift. Trying to avoid the pain of loss by imagining you might be the one that is lacking reason, will only lead you into much more pain and loss. Don't misplace sorrow for melancholy. You're still young enough, so I suggest analyzing all your past female relationships and look for the common themes. Believe me when I tell you, what you describe is a horror show for ones heart.
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Nonsense LP, just read through the thread and see where I was trying to prove the NAP. I have always been using UPB arguments. As usual an emotionally led topic, and with people that should know better.