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I don't know. This whole substructure of power is kept up by the EU, if that were to collapse I think things would rapidly shift and the UKIP's/ 5 Stars/ Le Pens and their equivalent will quickly gain ground. The EU have a real fight on their hands with Italy, it's third biggest contributor.

Overview of the protest: #FreeTommy: The Good, The Bad and the chavvy [Link]

Overview of the protest:

Reporting restrictions lifted: Tommy Robinson Reporting Restriction Lifted, Jailed for 13 Months [Link]

If you can give me examples of dealing with addicts and things I would be very interested to hear. P.S. Just talked to an old friend of mine, assuming all goes well I have a full time job.

I respond like that so that I get all my thoughts out. I did answer your points because I was working on them but... sort of indirectly.

That might be it, it might be time to hit that friendship on the head, or acknowledge to myself it is already going that way. (It might have been pushed originally when someone asked me if I would see this friend more if he lived nearby and I said 'no' because the alcoholism annoys me too much). The destruction of a human being through alcohol is a horrible thing, it's not something I want to see again. Apparently the 12 stages of alcoholic anonymous are for friends and family as well. So the first stage is to admit you are powerless over the person if they are your friend or family.

This is what happens when guys communicate for too long, things start getting beat down to their technical specifics rather than the way of emotionally summing things up that women have. Perhaps it was not a good example, Stefans two examples were things that created really deep philosophical meaning for him whereas mine is a more everyday example, not of any great depth but I don't come up with my own philosophical conclusions on things. I am not that guy. I write music and come out with things but most of the time I have slightly less abstract concerns, which is kind of ironic since I am such a thinker. When I have a dream it usually leads me in the direction of a behaviour that needs to change, in my view. To answer. I am concerned about this friend because he is almost always hung over and when another one of my friends went to see him recently, who is not given to huge displays of empathy or thought about others, he was a bit disgusted with the guys drunkness. So this person probably hides the extent the alcohol is a problem, and is given to addictive behaviours as well (ah, sounding bad now). Also you just get a feel with the stories people tell. I have discussed this with him. I am also concerned how nobody else seems bothered because drinking is so accepted in this culture. Although, there is a legitimate possibility that I worry too much about other peoples alcohol intake since my father, who was an alcoholic died, and it became clear only at the end of his life due to how well he hid it, how bad the problem actually is. So I see a problem where others do not. He is not a large impact on my life, I do feel when I meet him that I would try to get through to him. Kind of subconscious I didn't realise that. It is interesting to follow that line of questioning. My priority at the moment is work concerns I am going absolutely mad on part time work. The song itself... 'how to save a life', is about losing someone to those substances.

Perhaps a better way of saying it is that I got reminded to contact a friend who I think drinks too much. Not that has problems with alcohol. There is not much I could practically do to "save him" since he lives far away and I only see him every few months or so.

He might not be as bad as I implied with those words. I don't know how bad he is either because he genuinely isn't that bad, or he is hiding it, but he is functional, the song reminded me of him and seemed like a positive reminder.

Kohlrak: The wikipedia article excerpt did go through and I had meant to say, in answer to your earlier response. That BB is always the government when you had said BB refers to NGO's.

You just ignored my last post. There is a philosopher out there, you probably have not heard of him since you have given no indication that you have. He has recently interviewed someone who knows quite a bit about this case and lives in Canada so is outside the UK's jurisdiction. His name is Stefan Molyneux... Perhaps you should check him out, if you are not too busy.

OK, his wikipedia that FDR doesn't allow me to quote here, under the subheading arrests, quotes events and arrests for assault.

From Wikipedia: On 24 August 2010, Robinson was involved in a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton, on the evening that the two clubs played at Kenilworth Road. Robinson reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting a 100-man brawl, during which he chanted "EDL till I die". Eleven months later, in July 2011, he was convicted of having used "threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour" on the night of the incident. He was given a 12-month community rehabilitation order with 150 hours' unpaid work and a three-year ban from attending football matches. He was also ordered to pay £650 in costs.[31] Robinson was arrested after an EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets on 3 September 2011 for breach of bail conditions, as he had been banned from attending that demonstration. After his arrest, Robinson began a hunger strike in custody in Bedford Prison, saying that he was a "political prisoner of the state",[32] and refused to eat what he believed was halal meat.[33] A local paper reported Bedford Prison sources as saying that the hunger strike lasted only 24 hours.[34] A handful of EDL supporters protested outside the prison in support of Robinson during his incarceration; the support peaked at a turnout of 100 protesters on 10 September.[35] Robinson was released from prison on 12 September.[36] On 29 September 2011, he was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn in April that year.[37] He was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[38] Robinson said that the assault had happened because of a confrontation with a neo-Nazi who had joined the EDL's rank and file.[39][40] Interviewed on BBC Three Counties Radio on 9 October 2013, the day after he had resigned from the EDL, Robinson said, "One of the things people condemn me for is having a criminal record; what they don't wish to say is that part of that criminal record is for confronting neo-Nazis in Blackburn at one of my demonstrations, where I was taken before the courts and charged for assault...during the last four years we've had in-house battles, physical battles to keep these elements out. Now I’ve got to the point—listeners can look on Youtube for 'RVF EDL', they'll see there's these Nazis and they're talking to me telling me they're going to kill me—and there are fifty of them with balaclavas on."[40]

A guy just a few miles down the road from me was thrown into jail for more than two years for having 8 anti Islam posts in 2015 on his facebook. http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/15358854.___Bomb_a_mosque____man_jailed_for_web_race_hate/ ? That is the weirdest thing to say Big Brother is the government.

He was involved with the EDL, who were prepared to physically confront at demonstrations. I'm not sure on specifics. He has also been in prison which means regardless of the truth of the label people may assume him to be violent.

We can de facto assume Britains finest is aware of this thread. However, they have a lot of other people to watch. There are far more active groups such as those that have already previously committed violence against these gangs, and all sorts of capable and other more professional people who are rebelling against this. I'm sure I have a LONG way to go before I would be receiving a visit or interference from them. You have to be a proper threat either with money or organising influence. But if I did have any of those things I'm sure I have a file that stretches back through the mid 2000's of passively gathered intel. Another quote from 1984: the only thing that is truly efficient in Oceania is the thought police. If this is the only thing you have to say I'm going to assume you are an agitator. I suggest no one mentions violence here, except perhaps as a relation to philosophy.

Based on this video. Very good: Bitchute: Stefan Molyneux. I had a thought. [Link] He talks in the beginning about his subconscious mind talking to him. I've had this happen recently with a song by the Fray staying in my mind 'how to save a life'. I cut a friend of mine a break because I remembered that he's sliding down the alcoholism route in a big way and messaged him. I got a return response and will likely see him again soon. Also another friend I made sure to stay on top of the situation. Anyone else have examples that stick out?

I can't describe the pain I felt when Tommy went to prison. I think when he went to prison as well a million people or more, who had had relatives somehow involved in that trafficking would have cried out in pain. I think it is possible that the anger could rise to physical behaviour because of this. If not then we truly are in a 1930's Germany situation.

I've always had trouble with NAP, the reason being is that when things really hit the fan, and in the secret behind the scenes world I perceive, such as linked to intelligence activities. Incredible violence happens. People are tortured and killed as part of these things and there would often be no other way of handling it. I do like when Stefan explains things as 'what is the thing morally wrong in this statement is the violation of the non aggression principle' and it does make sense when he says that. There are other arguments I won't go into. I do think Tommy has tried hard to reinvent himself as a non violent person and that there may still be a legal or political route to deal with this stuff. But... there has been so much vote rigging in England. I don't know who it was who 'behind the scenes' had the UK's back in the EU referendum but Nigel Farage's attempts at becoming an MP were definitely rigged, as was the Scottish referendum, and I suspect basically every vote that England has ever had. The woman that runs 'For Britain' has a by election on June 14th. If they rig her out of it then I hope there is enough fury on behalf of the populace to make the establishment face that.

I'll continue here because I never know what combination of words will get me 'stuck'. The point on the supposed mentioning of the names of the people convicted... Declared guilty is not legitimate since he was reading out the names of people already published by the media. So this looks like a point you just made up.

I can't take this. For years everyone I have tried to talk to about political matters has just been flatly non interested. I have tried to form right wing groups. Sitting here doing music and music is the great uniter. Perhaps I can bring people together with it. Perhaps I can sit with a group around a camp fire and say 'this is a song I wrote about x' and start a conversation. But that although possible, is just a little farfetched. I suppose it is what I can do. We are actually going down a totalitarian route. It is actually happening. All the beliefs of political change coming are starting to seem like wishful thinking! In relation to this jokers claims. You just need to listen to Stefans video. Honestly it would seem stupid to summarise the evidence. I changed my mind: Tommy being arrested without due process, I.e. his own lawyer, or bail. A point you did not respond to. Is clearly shown to be totalitarian, regardless of if the law says that is legitimate. And being arrested and sent to jail so incredibly quickly shows they were just trying to disappear him. Regardless of your condemnatory intellectually obtuse arguments. The police have to release Imams because Muslims riot. Rapists get a proper trial with legal representation etc.

Rest of my message got stuck. Stefan has a new video! Wooo!