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In my view mostly these things are compatible with following your own best interest, being a smart consumer. For instance, I used to love bitchute however, I could not upload videos on there. As bitchute becomes more popular the company will improve their services so I will be able to. Bitchute really is superior to youtube. I don't watch youtube for crappy trendies so the fact that it is "all political" is awesome., Gab is good but I've kept my twitter, very little interaction on Gab.

You mention Stefan and Peterson. Definitely an interesting element to this discussion I take all of what Stefan says but definitely have my own slant on it. For instance, I've been dealing with a 'workplace tussle' at the moment, I will leave it like that because it is starting to develop into a legal element. What I have found is how good the Unions are, in this and other disputes. I have lost some of my naivety in regards to business. Do I believe the free market solution to be the best still? Possibly, not definitely. I believe the workplace law is a great help. So I am still evaluating Stephs ideas on that. Peterson is a bit more about individual psychology than global issues. On women I do find that everything Stef says is relevant but I would not want to actually be overly aware of it in my everyday dealings with women. I think he also has a similar view since he has positive views on women with his daughter and wife. That it is a bit like 'these are the pitfalls, but this is not life' kind of thing.

Holy hell. Normally I would not want to badger my own thread too much but I thought I'd respond to that since it is so long and intense. You definitely are describing women as unthinking automatons. Devoid of variety, individual thought, learning ability etc. I would say there is a dysfunction in that many women whom are 'of age' and beautiful, do not agree with leadership roles sometimes. I had a female manager recently that was brilliant but many other times they seem to not suit a powerful position because they want the man to be more powerful than them, so they try to manipulate people to get him to ask her out or whatever and this goes wrong, because it includes other people. Also, womens desire to always be right comes from that emotional energy that comes from looking after a child (they get over it a bit after that sometimes). If you think about it when she looks after a baby through to 5-6 years old she is always right in a sense. In the workplace they are thrown into they just don't have a function, or more correctly, in the technical sense they do have a function but THEY ARE VERY UNHAPPY. You get these beautiful and/ or neurotic slightly vampire like creatures floating about. I can't relate to your dating standards just as they are. My interests have always been compelling enough that I don't mind not having a girlfriend and I have an extremely good discipline of my sex drive. You can be more careful in the area if little you isn't making the decisions. I know an early 20's girl whom I'm sort of growing closer to, I have not labelled this yet (friend, girlfriend etc.) neither do I know if I will have a choice of label (either way). The interesting thing is is how she changes a persons perspective with her responses, causing a person to re- evaluate things. Bit of a hermit apparently, thinker. Anyway, against this sort of person it is very hard to hold these sorts of neurosis. People just are at the end of the day. The same goes with female family members. The young sister I have talked about elsewhere I have seen her before she was able to hide her psychology. Thus it is insightful to how women think. How some of them for instance go for the 'nice guy' that they are not suited for for a while and have to come to terms with their own real selves. I find womens ongoing tussle with carnality interesting. How part of them wants a muscly brute beating another man to a pulp and also, part of them cannot abide that in the slightest. Have you tried just trying to make a woman happy over a long period of time and seeing what happens?

I remember going on a more female forum a while back and they were saying loads of things about men, then in casual conversation I mentioned a bit about my perception on women and they all got really defensive and started saying new age crap about everyone being equal. And also to put a slightly lighter but still with a heavy psychological/ intellectual element to it on this forum! Differences I notice with attractive girls and more plain looking girls. There are variations here with different kinds of attractiveness (body, facial etc.) but in general: The attractive ones are very very direct, they have to be very careful with their attention because men are very easily hurt by it; while the not specifically attractive are very indirect. This can go as far as pretending they don't remember you and other things like this in a very obvious way. The very attractive ones often can't accept not being right, whereas the other type often can accept this, hence the attractive one will get in more trouble, and the other type strategically protect themselves. The attractive ones from a young age are simply never told 'no' and especially from a guy. I have heard it said that the attractive ones cheat more but this does not seem to be the case. I would say it's 50:50. The whole r/ K/ thing would state inferior genotypes would be more involved with hookup culture and hence, most likely cheat more in relationships. What does everyone else personally notice with these type? Or other general insights that might be interesting?

This is a really interesting point. I knew a feminist psychotherapy woman who used to do this. Everything everyone did that displeased her was down to their own sex drive which they could not accept. Murky territory indeed, getting lost in one's own mind/ madness! I often find 'therapy culture' people elitest. I find that in meet up groups specifically. Although there are other very cool legitimate therapists.

Without specificity we can't really discuss this in any depth, can we? I have been s*** tested by a girl, failed, and that was fair enough. A blond bombshell with all sorts of sensitivities with an intensity of a kind of person I just don't fit. The thing is with this girl is she played fair. When she wanted me to talk to her, she walked up to me and stared in my eyes, and walked off, then I had to follow. There was fair warning, a few months, before the unpleasant behaviour started. However, additional women have been just nasty and in this case, I think the so- called s*** test is just an excuse for their own failings as a person. Having a girl crying and saying we are soulmates and then deliberately going off and getting pregnant with a brute over a small problem, when she is north of 30, before dating (it didn't work out, surprisingly). Is just her internal crap. Many girls seem to desire a great deal of courting before even the first date. (But then I do live in England where a friend of mine describes the girls as being 'the king the queen, the whole royal family!') Now the term 's*** test' basically does not analyse the behaviour and find a solution, even a political one. It is just brushed under the rug because the goal is the v organ.

I also believe, sincerely, that negative, or "evil" individuals never grow up. But that is possibly beside the point.

It seems to me that with the sociology the way it is, it can be quite difficult for people to grow up, and that even in attempts to do so there is a lot of kind of 'social gravity' working against it! I.e. difficult to get a job, difficult to find a house etc. Although I think people like Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux have something to offer and would be popular anyway, I do think a part of their popularity in THIS SOCIETY and the specific way it is "manifesting" so to speak is partly to do with this, it is people trying to grow up. So my question is, what do you think of this hypothesis, do you agree? And what mechanisms are people successfully using, i.e. aware people from single mothers etc. to propertly start to gain some mental maturity.

I believe people have an objective life path, something they were put here to do. For me I believe a big part of that, perhaps the biggest part, is music. Whenever it comes to academic work I have always struggled against my own tendency to put my points in as brief a words as possible. As though I was writing song lyrics! It interests me that you don't experience things the same way and properly explain things! Drop some personal info now or later so we can follow you!

I was going to comment here that imo people can't really decide to be philosophers it's something that happens after they have experienced the fire of life but this post impressed me a great deal so I will eat my words! I seriously wish you luck!

What do you think about the situation with friendships? Do you agree

That is what I wrote but that is not quite how I see it. You can be accustomed to people but not form a closer bond, I will use the term 'closer bond' as a stage between acquaintance and friendship. Friendships will form after I would imagine about 3 - 3.5 years of closeness/ communication. Obviously a lot of this not being formed out of necessity. I DO believe that shared needs are important to forming a friendship. Perhaps that is part of my personal perspective but although I do have friends, some of many years, and have had other friendships that have gone wrong (women are the kiss of death for this), and had clearly false friendships that I knew from the beginning were so. For me personally I like spending time in solitary pursuits so much that need is part of the reason I reach out.

Crazy world.

In my view shared values is something that if you don't share it, you simply don't end up in the same room with a person in the first place. I am talking about deeply held values. We see this in common office politics. Those that are more aligned to be in the "in" group and those who are not really in the "in" group, or are there but are a little different, end up spending time with each other. "True" friendship? Not wishing to be arrogant, but I think such a term confuses the issue, and is a bit quaint. After you have the shared values the closeness partly comes from shared experiences (positive and negative, in a club like setting with little "social glue" perhaps there are not enough NEGATIVE joint experiences to bring people together! Interesting thought.) Also things like confiding to each other.

In my view friendships are the natural result of spending a great deal of time with others. You end up having needs as well, social etc. and the people that respond positively, that try to help you out, end up being friends and you in turn learn how to help them with things. Sorry if that all sounds a bit basic I suppose the query is a bit basic to me. I would say that if you want long term friendships then you do need to be in the same place for long- ish periods of time. People have friends from school and work mostly. I have had escalations with close friends but never serious ones. The whole situation with dating of exes and other related issues is altogether very thorny.

Holy hell man you're making us nutters look bad!

I have a lot of eccentric beliefs that don't fit into a traditional structure but as long as you can assert small changes for yourself, then I think you can find a good balance. Just by carefully removing the limitations that some religion and obligations produce. For instance, last Christmas was a good one for me I ate extremely healthy, no alcohol of chocolate. I felt absolutely great because of this and watched a film I wanted to watch. Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows. Beliefs are slow moving things that take years to form, test and integrate into your physical life, so I don't see a quick solution to this sort of query.

*Sigh* What is your function here seriously? Winding everyone up? I see most 's*** testing' as simply the women whining for attention. Sometimes the guy is kind of into the woman but does not really know it, and the woman gets impatient and starts doing loads of things, well beyond what would be called a legitimate 's*** test' basically whining that he did not ask her out in precisely the way she wanted on precisely the date she wanted, and overlooking any legitimate reason this may be the case. I.e. cowed by workplace rules put in by feminists that she is probably casually one of. I think this pick up artist terminology isn't really that useful in explaining them, because a pick up artist wants to get between her legs he does not care if his theories legitimately explain anything i.e. like truthful.

For no apparent reason when I was young I grew obsessed with sociopaths and read everything I could about them, although I don't believe I have ever met one that has stayed part of my life for any length of time. A blessing surely! I keep only small circles of friends and people quite frequently drift out of my life. The best book on the subject I ever read was the one by Martha Stout. Although you probably don't need that having built on your own ideas. However, here is an interesting quote from her: She also says that the best way to really know if someones a psychopath is to wait until the end of their lives and see if they have alienated everyone around them. I.e. on justice. I don't believe that is enough personally but it is something. The left always jump into my mind when I read that quote from Martha although I do not go out looking for ways to put the left down. Another book confirmed your point on if they go to any sort of therapy they are able to evade capture for longer. For the ones with a proclivity to an illegal behaviour. You are an interesting speaker though, with the analogy of the dog etc and it is good that you have landed on your feet. I knew online a girl who spent a good section of her young life in a mental hospital (for being engaged in a part of life that I do believe in and keep hidden if I ever speak on this forum, she could see auras and entities) and she describes it similarly to how you did.

Intellect comes with a cost in my experience. For instance, Bob Dylan would find it hard to work in a caring or nursing capacity I suspect.

I don't consider myself a moral arbiter but it strikes me in this world we live in there are potential unintended consequences for every decision we make. So if you take a job that is lower paying are you more of a burden to others etc.? Or if you don't take a job you really want and are less happy, is that a burden to others?

Yeah, Jordan in contrast to Stefan is skeptical of IQ as a determinant factor in someones life. I.e. 'People with a high IQ that are completely useless!'

This is interesting I got an almost identical dream recently. In meaning not in exact symbology. I was talking to what seemed like a co worker who was saying that he was surprised I was working more at my current job because he expected me to leave because the people there are so immature. However, a storm was coming so we had to go in and so I could not go to other local businesses to find a job. Then when I went downstairs there were children tied up and one of the workers was a mother and appreciated the time to speak to her child for a few seconds in her 'daycare' experience. I think some dreams are unuseful and even so much so they can seem a little malevolent and I don't know either way on this one. This dream does not impinge on my life though.

OK Moderator please do not need to let through the post including the bolded words 'both sides' because I was clearly answering the wrong question.

I have found diary writing to work! Lol. Strange but true and music only if I'm not too down. I need to follow Petersons advice and tidy my space, and make sure I have food in etc. Hit the right spot this post did!