Gnostic Bishop

That hording is what will accelerate our financial problems. As I said, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Regards DL

What, other than hate, would cause someone to murder another? Google Inquisition and knock yourself out. Regards DL Look up

Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment? I ask this question, because forcing people to do so, seems to go against the notions of freedom, liberty, equality and fraternity. It is an insult to our fiduciary duty to each other and is responsible for many honor killings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvdqNU8rX4 In many countries, be it a religious, political or social custom; women and men are forced to wear particular garments;, veils hijabs, or beards are three examples of this. Does this practice of using force go against our fiduciary duty to women and men? The Golden Rules or some form of reciprocity exists in most religions and cultures. No one likes to be forced to do anything, this is irrefutable. In some cultures, force is used to have men and women kowtow to the culture or religion. This is a poor and immoral ideology. I believe that obliging or forcing people to submit to any political, social or religious norm, including forcing various apparel, --- without a just cause, --- is immoral. Do you agree? Regards DL

If the majority of us are religious, and stats show we are, the religious affiliation is what is preventing us from overcoming our natures. Right? Regards DL

What color and nationality was Jesus? Regards DL

As I stated. Their morals are about the same. Watch them elect an accused pedophile. Not to intelligent and moral people. You ask which tribe then answered yourself. What a strange mind you have. So you do not recognize your own tribal instinct ot the one driving people to accept a genocidal son murdering God. Ok. If you mean all people placed first above a genocidal God, I agree. Regards DL

Was the Church without sin when it used Inquisitions and cast many stones? Regards DL

Was Christianity of the orthodox kind dominant in this area? Regards DL

Hate. Regards DL So you will ignore morality, and do the immoral thing, and let God take care of the details. Ok. The Inquisitors said the same basic thing. Regards DL

If God values free will, --- quite an assumption on your part BTW, --- why does he deny it to both angels in heaven, man on earth and even Jesus before even man was created? The first thing God is shown to, even before creation, is to deny Jesus his free will to choose not to sacrifice himself by choosing him, regardless of Jesus' will that seems to not have been in favor of God altering his usual justice of punishing the guilty to demanding a bribe/sacrifice to alter and corrupt his usual justice which sought to punish only the guilty. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. If we really had a free will, some would choose to not sin. Right? None ever have according to scriptures so your notion of free will cannot be accurate. ------------ Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”. That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy." But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem. If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin. That being the case, for God to punish us for following the instincts and natures he put in us would be quite wrong. Regards DL

Killing them does not make them a better person either but God killing them makes him mlook like quite the prick given that he could cure them of what he is killing them for. I disagree that people choose to be evil. Are we not all products of our environment and upbringing? Excepting the insane of course. Think Stockholm Syndrome. Are you good or evil intrinsically, or are you whatever your environment created? Are you a product of nature or nurture? Regards DL

More than likely, for sure. That being the case, why complain of my evaluation? Do you fear the truth? What would God cure? Whatever is causing him to kill. Regards DL

And you are as big of a moron as all idol worshiping fools, who love a genocidal son murdering prick. I hope you parting insult was as rewarding to you as mine was to me. Now go shove your stupid moral views and head back up your God's ass whence they came. Do not expect any thing else from me here. You are not worth it. Regards DL

If you see it as immoral for either a man or a God to kill, when they can cure, you show how your beliefs have corrupted your moral sense. If you cannot see that clear example of poor moral thinking, we have nothing further to discus as we would be wasting time. Regards DL

I cannot argue with invisible Gods and if you are to just throw him at me whenever the discussion gets hot, it is pointless for me to bother with you. Regards DL

I was comparing their vile moralities. Not people. Yes. A tribalism gain with a loss of morality. I point out the Republicans because of the hypocritical way they are responding to many claims of abuse. Denials and calling their victims liars. Yes. And since God is not around to correct us, I will go with my own views. So should you. Right? So you would take moral guidance from a genocidal son murdering prick of a God. Are you insane? I will wait for your answer before dealing with your supernatural fantasy. Regards DL

You have no way of knowing anything about any supernatural God. Pray to your God to help you stop lying to us. You are showing your slave mentality and would be wise to ignore me as I am free of your delusional slave mentality and thinking. Regards DL

Posted just now · Hidden Hidden There is a lot of wisdom in scriptures and even beauty as you say. It has to be read and understood the right way though to find the wisdom. Literalists and idol worshipers cannot read it properly as they fear their God. Where they should see evil, they see good. That is how they end in adoring a genocidal son murdering prick. That began right from the time Christianity reversed our elevation in Eden to our fall. Christians should have followed the Jewish view and praise Eve for the enlightenment of man but instead chose to denigrate women and call what Eve did evil. ‘Instead of the Fall of man (in the sense of humanity as a whole), Judaism preaches the Rise of man: and instead of Original Sin, it stresses Original Virtue, the beneficent hereditary influence of righteous ancestors upon their descendants’. As to Christianity being terrible or good. What do you think of homophobia and misogyny and women not being given full equality in the church or society? As to me, I am a Gnostic Christian and believed as they did before taking that label. Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways. Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations. Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality. Regards DL

There is a lot of wisdom in scriptures and even beauty as you say. It has to be read and understood the right way though to find the wisdom. Literalists and idol worshipers cannot read it properly as they fear their God. Where they should see evil, they see good. That is how they end in adoring a genocidal son murdering prick. That began right from the time Christianity reversed our elevation in Eden to our fall. Christians should have followed the Jewish view and praise Eve for the enlightenment of man but instead chose to denigrate women and call what Eve did evil. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/20/comparative-theodicy/ ‘Instead of the Fall of man (in the sense of humanity as a whole), Judaism preaches the Rise of man: and instead of Original Sin, it stresses Original Virtue, the beneficent hereditary influence of righteous ancestors upon their descendants’. As to Christianity being terrible or good. What do you think of homophobia and misogyny and women not being given full equality in the church or society? As to me, I am a Gnostic Christian and believed as they did before taking that label. Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways. Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations. Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality. https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk Regards DL

I know of no unborn sacrificed to save a dying person. True that Christians are gullible enough to believe their lying priests who claim that their children are born in sin, so you would think that they would not care if a sinners is aborted. Be they innocent or guilty, God can cure or kill and when he chooses to kill, he is choosing the immoral path instead of the moral path. I now see why you numbered everything. You like to go your own way. Regards DL

Nice that I was here to catch your reply. I have not read of the particular version of Eden you refer to but I do know that all of the bible is based on older and pagan traditions. Mostly from Sumer and Egypt but the Jesus archetypal story goes into the more Eastern traditions as well. I agree that Christianity has tried to take all the feminine out of the bible, likely to help in their misogynist leanings. My kingdom to reverse that trend, but it is a hard go when Christians deny their misogynistic and homophobic ways. Regards DL

When they spread Christianity by the sword and Inquisitions instead of good moral arguments. Theistic laws like stoning adulterers and unruly children or stoning people for just wearing two kinds of cloth. I could go on but you get the picture. Regards DL

I doubt if I can even chat with you but will try one point at a time to see if we can. If you do not see the crimes against humanity I see, beginning with every time God kills or has us killed, when he could just as easily cure, then I guess that the conversation end right here. You might think of the flood of Noah's day as well as when God had Israel smash babies heads against stones. Regards DL

That is also how Gnostic Christianity works as it is a religion of esoteric ecumenists and perpetual seekers. Regards DL

Yet God chose to kill when he could have cured. You and your view make no sense and is not at all biblical. Regards DL