Josh F

Anarchy is only one relevant application of the NAP. He advocates, frequently, for peaceful parenting, negotiations, not using violence, etc. And he isn't a tote the line statist, at most he is a dispassionate participant in a system he knows is corrupt.

They might spend more money, but if things cost more $ to purchase because of increased labor costs, then it doesn't help. So a burger is $1, and the burger flipper makes $1 an hour. Then the flipper gets $2 so the burger becomes $2. Now for people who didn't get a raise, are things cheaper or more expensive?

Risk what? The us and them thing is a little too thick. Does he use violence to force people to do things? No? Anarchist.

I don't think good people need to wait for fools and evil men to be ready. I do agree that the negativity about bitcoin is a reflection of a much larger negativity within this community, the sort of doom and gloom part of the community. I'm quite certain they're all not passionately angry about bitcoin, so what else is going on? Like they dont get this upset when libertarians play blackjack which has far more immoral implications.

he's a peaceful parent who questions the government, good enough for me =)

without making a protracted argument, let me just say we'll probably all just draw circles.

it begs the question, does the state shit? Anarcho-existentialism.

Yeah I mean I'm sort of just clearing out the closet now, the whole house has been put in boxes. That is to say, I've given up the unhealthy relationships i've had with my immediate family, distant family, and close friends. This guy was sort of a lingerer. In Jr High, he literally defended me while two people were beating me up, so I've always just liked and appreciate him. I've kind of suspected he didn't think fondly of me these days, which might have made me sad in the past, but yeah like I said it feels good to dodge a bullet. Thanks Lians for relating, what other lessons did you learn from this process?

I think passive and normal aggression are both tools for control. The alpha sadist is the obvious aggressor. The beta masochist is a little more tricky to spot, I've found. I think the martyr like approach of passive aggressive behavior is designed to seem victimizing. For example, a woman who is always playing the damsel in distress, but constantly chooses abusive partners. Thats almost a cliche, the girl who bats her eyes and plays victim while some foolish aggressive alpha defends her. It is natural to describe them as slaves or victims, because if we think of a woman with an abusive man in her life as a victim, but in the aggregate and in reality she is likely seeking out abusive people intentionally. My point wasn't to change the word sadist the word alpha, only to point out that the alpha beta paradigm mirrors the sadist masochist paradigm.

I feel like this topic is exhausted, personally.

I found the movie to be a terrible adaptation of the book, which is mostly about idiosyncrasies and relationships. It is a very lovely story about how relationships develop out of a series of unshared reactions and associations. So being naked with a hat in the mirror might take on different meanings for the girl standing naked and the guy watching her, and how those different meanings come from completely idiosyncratic origins. And each character embodies some really interesting qualities, like how the body betrays your intentions, dreams, and other stuff... GREAT book.

Starting maybe 2 years ago I have progressively putting RTR into my life (that is to say, living a life with integrity and treating relationships as voluntary). At first, the lose of friends and eventually my family was very difficult. A few months ago, I officially made an effort to block my parents from my life. For a couple weeks this was an emotionally challenging act, and I wrestled with a lot of conflicting ideas and emotions. Recently, someone I had considered an old friend revealed that he doesn't like me that much. He basically insulted me on Facebook, I asked him what his intention was, and he said I wasn't as smart as I think I am, which was just passive and insulting and revealing. I told him I once appreciated his friendship deeply, but that I have to remove him from my contacts because I can't endure pretending we're friends when you resent me. Anyways, long story short... it felt great! What I mean is that instead of trying to manage his emotions, or deny my feelings, or anything else... I just saved myself from future abuse. And it feels great. It is the scene in the Matrix where I learn I don't have to move side to side trying to dodge bullets, but I can stop them dead, mid air, before they ever even get close without moving a muscle.

I was considering the moral implications of the designation of Alphas and Betas in our society, and I came to a conclusion that Alpha is a metaphor for sadist, and beta is a metaphor for masochist. And that ultimately the alpha and beta model is this symbiotic relationship directly in opposition to integrity. I was thinking about the two groups of people in my life who have most vehemently opposed me. On one hand, there are these sadistic people, who use charm and humor to mask direct abuse and humiliate me: my dad, a few friends I've had, etc. On the other hand there are these betas. Throughout my life meek, shy, nerdy, or square people have tended to also seek to abuse me, often with more passive aggressive tactics. This is my mom in many respects (though she had her own Sadistic tendencies as well). This is a couple of old acquaintances I always suspected of rooting for my failure, or talking behind my back, etc. Let me know if this inspires any ideas or anything....

haha aww poor doggies.

but the labor theory of value is false.

Have you read Socrates? He is the most abrasive and annoying person in Ancient Greece. His nihilism and anti-government belligerence mirrors punk culture to a T. I'm concerned that you've made him a sacred object. This isn't like some fart Jesus painting designed to mix the profane with the sacred, it is an apt metaphor. Socrates was the first punk rocker.

hahaha, i actually did a last supper one years and years ago. I replaced Jesus with the RZA from wutang clan, and then everyone else was either a superhero or a wutang clan member. So yeah... pretty good guess, lol.

And whenever you cross over to the other side and become the type of person you once revere, it is suddenly not such a big deal. Like remember senors in high school? By the time you've become one, the idea of them contains zero reverence. I imagine becoming a parent, or millionaire, or celebrity is the same... suddenly you're there and you're realizing its occupied by the same type of humans as everything else.

Check out Waldorf, Montessori, and Unschooling

This was something I talked with a Waldorf teacher about, and she argues something similar. She cautions against the morality present in most types of fantasy, and the intensity of the experience when it comes to children. She does advocate spoken word stories based on empathy and moral lessons, though. I think early childhood lessons should be focused on empathy and negotiations and reasoning and being happy. } For adults, however, I think that it takes on a completely different roll. After around the age of 7 a child raised in a healthy environment should be sufficiently able to distinguish between reality and fantasy. For example, in the 4th grade we studied a lot of things, but I only remember one to this day, which is the history of the gold rush (I grew up in CA). And the reason I remember it was because the school hired this whole group of people to recreate a gold panning experience and we drank sarsaparilla soda (root beer) and did line dancing. Well I've seen the example of one kid who started getting very mischievous after he started watching Tom and Jerry cartoons. He suddenly was going around tying people's shoelaces together and hiding things from them.

this is one of the best shows I've ever seen, it is very anti-government, and so dark and funny.

Been doing it since I was a kid, for about 15 years now. Its super duper easy. I think mixing the death of Socrates with images of a superficial and modern irrational world is a little metaphoric, but mostly my goal was aesthetic. I have long had a fantasy of brilliant people who say things of value taking center stage over actors and rockstars.

Yeah for sure, parents have been getting better over time. Many parents would drug crying babies, infanticide was rampant until industrialism, and children are often raped and beaten throughout history. Unfortunately, but maybe to their ultimate credit, our parents generation is amongst the first to raise kids who would become peaceful parents. I think in the future there will be a significant historic schism, peaceful parents and abusive ones, and our parents were part of that abusive category. Here is the thing though. It isn't about what your parents deserve. You're not responsible for dolling out some divine punishment. It is about you, the victim, and having sympathy and love for yourself. For example, if I was to start smacking you in the face, would you forgive me if I was the victim of abuse? I don't think so, you'd hold me accountable for my actions and adjust your accordingly. I'm certain I wouldn't be invited over for dinner, right? Why can't we hold everyone to the same consistent moral standards?