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Quite a debate! Geez guys, same team. Goal: stopping low IQ people flooding The West. Effective solutions: A: Full-on nationalist: build a tribal wall similar to Israël B: Nationalist-ish: just stop funding the migrants similar to Japan, Poland.. I prefer option B as it is: - less expensive - less chance of hampering trade & tourism - cannot be abused by socialists to turn The West into a prison - has been proven empirically to prevent terrorism close to option A That being said, option A is fine with me too... it has added symbolic value. Do what works!

Great question. Theres indeed a lot of "stock market type" uncertainty involved, making predictions close to impossible. But there is also the factor of mass psychology, which *may* be better to predict. The question it comes down to: How much pressure can a govt put on their people before they go mental and switch to revolution-mode to the point of suicidal? Scary version: look at the population of both Venezuela and North Korea for a glimpse into our own future. They still seem to swallow their gov's sh!t. Optimist version: support alternative media and/or speak to help separate govt from economy. Shift the people's perspective on the importance/relevance of govt. That way govt may never run out of money but get forced to restructure into a free-market type of minarchist security company, responsive to the customer's needs. Also, a related fun read: http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-straight-best-friends-marry-11739904 Basically two straight men married to avoid the insane gift-taxes we suffer under in this late Roman empire. I love it when the govt has less money for their evil or inefficient goals. What I like most is that those guys are so honest about it. Merry -no homo man love- Christmas <3

+++++ Pretty shocking to me, black market prices for the Bolivar are... extreme - wtf is that govt doing over there? Smells like North Korea 2.0 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-01/one-dollar-now-buys-103-000-bolivars-in-venezuela-s-black-market https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrlpDL5hyU +++++ Btc-core dropping in value, Nothing particularly shocking here, we're used to much bigger price swings. But... what do you guys know? I've recently noticed from Shapeshift.io and other practical Bitcoin platforms that transaction fees are going through the roof. * approx. 15 euros minimum miner fee needed to transfer btc. * The transaction memory pool is overflowing. Can market forces fix the amount of miners to bring down fees? Is there an ETA for a btc-core lightning network? Are they going to do a fork again? Will btc-cash take over? If yes, will the blockchain itself explode in file-size, causing centralization? Would it be wise to look at other technologies like IOTA's "Tangle"?

Yes by knowing all of Stef's rational teachings you will get socially isolated and possibly your social skills will suffer. But even before I got the red-pill info and was still living in "socialist thought paradise", my relationships were incredibly shallow. Questions to you: - Would you rather go back to a mystical/Keynesian way of looking at the world, happily paying taxes and getting completely caught by surprise at the next financial crisis/SHTF or slow Venezuela style decay of societly? - Would you want to engage in shallow personal relationships where you feel even more lonely but were unable to tell why..? Practical suggestion, try filtering people online: In the near future I may try this myself: meeting interesting people online via meetup.com, couchsurfing.com, facebook.com, fdrurl.com,... Most of those platforms have to ability to click on groups with similar interests. And instead of just hitting the "LIKE" button when you see a dude's comment, try contacting him if he's in your geographical area or on your list of travel destinations. No I don't count on finding 100% anarchists from first principle but minarchists can be very dependable people. A friend of mine I met from a previous job is a right wing voter and no fan of importing immigrants. Sure the conversations aren't very philosophical but it can be surprising how many thinking and life style choices you'll have in common.

Excellent explanation again on the regression-to-the-mean topic. Unfortunately many people don't care or want to think that far ahead. I'm still totally onboard with the logic that nationalism is required before libertarian minarchism, with end goal of philosophical anarchism. What I don't really get is why most nationalists want enhanced border protections. Just focus on stopping tax money going to migrants. Winter and rainy nights are really tough, food is damned hard to grow/find in a northern forest. 99% will gtfo themselves! No need to lay a single brick or fence off any country, right? What am I missing here? - Borders cost money, may hamper trade&tourism AND can be used by welfare state lovers to keep people IN. Think North Korea/Iron Curtain. - If public opinion doesn't like the image of sad cold hungry migrants: tell them to take in migrants in their home... then just wait as their personal dramas skyrocket and they change their minds. - Protection against terrorism isn't really an argument either, look at borderless East-European countries. Afaik if you have LESS migrants on welfare [[without chance for a job & family, with an infinite amount of time on their hands to get radicalized]], terrorism decreases.

That question is well answered in the first 5 minutes of this video: The Death Of Kindness

Spain's government revenues would suffer for sure. Not necessarily their economy, depending how the government would react. Trade among Spain and Catalonia should be able to continue. But probably with less forced wealth transfer/taxing in Catalonia. Unfortunately currently it is not difficult to find 160000 people in any country who are leftist, multi culturalist or pathologically altruist. My guess is that most of those people won't suffer strong competition on the job market from 'refugees'. Many full-time working EU citizens are taxed at a greater percentage of their income than the average slave throughout history. If Catalonia becomes a tax haven then it will likely become very unfriendly toward people who don't work productively or migrants. And I'll definitely consider moving there.

After guns, cars, knives and tweezers we should consider banning anything taller than a single story building. You see building access was the real perpetrator here. Don't you get that uncontrollable urge every time you walk past one? People are just innocent little flowers corrupted by the inanimate objects around them. Please get this!

Yes apart from 'economical reasons' the long winded news articles (as usual) don't succinctly state _why_ they want to separate. What i got from it is they're doing better than the rest of Spain, less unemployment, and therefore they want to keep their relative profits. As a general rule of thumb in these scenarios i support any separatist movement because smaller and more localized governments are more responsive to their citizens in general. And possibly less manipulation of fiat money. You raise a good point about their ability to fend off migrants. But I hope simply _not_ giving them money should work sufficiently for them to leave/shop elsewhere.

Police in Catalonia closes 1000+ voting bureaus in an attempt to block separatist referendum on sunday 01-10-2017 https://www.nu.nl/buitenland/4944380/politie-in-catalonie-sluit-ruim-duizend-stembureaus-referendum.html https://www.nu.nl/weekend/4942433/buigen-catalanen-repressie-madrid.html http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/09/25/spanish-president-asks-trump-oppose-catalonia-independence-referendum/

Okay. Just illustrating that your chances don't have to be impacted by the accident.

Dude you're awesome! You got hit by a truck and it didn't kill you! Start reframing your story like that. Hell, exaggerate it: next time you walk to a bus stop, use it to start a conversation: "Hi, yeah i know, i see you looking a me like that. You wouldn't believe what happened to me back in 2013 ... [story time] ... i'm sad to have dented the truck ..." Also important: pay attention to HOW you speak. If you tell this in a shy tone, without eye contact with your head tilted down: i promise it will not work. Do the opposite with proud and sparkling eyes and clear voice as if you're genuinely having fun telling the story! Couple of years ago i had a shattered ankle in a cast. (Healed completely, they took out a metal strip and 6 screws a year later). My buddies were working, didn't feel like asking/pressuring anyone to drive me home so i took public transport on borrowed crutches. Strange but a lot of fun to see how much more female attention and conversation i got! Maybe it was initially just pitty. But if you practice story telling, you _will_ score dates! No need for an online profile though the same advice applies there. Be honest about it but you can still frame it in an i-don't-feel-sorry-for-myself-because-i'm-fucking-awesome kinda way!

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Very interesting point of view, I feel like I understand you a lot better now. I guess I'm lucky in that respect to live in the EU, the government doesn't steal everything from men when divorced, it just does it all the time haha (not funny). Maybe pretty subjective preference, but I would recommend: don't allow the law to be such a controlling factor in your life. - I don't want to be a wage slave for the welfare state & military industrial complex. What's the alternative: be criminal or poor guy? - I don't want the US government to potentially grab half my stuff when divorced. What's the alternative? Wait forever/gene death? Additionally, If you're pretty rich and scared of government/female theft, i think there are multiple reasons to hold a significant portion of your financial portfolio in cryptocurrencies or physical gold. To get even more subjective, I do believe it's actually possible to predict within accurate probability if a women will divorce you in the future. Try to judge how emotionally stable somebody is. Judge the company they keep and how they spend their free time. I think additional signs to alleviate any fears are: - Does she do competitive sports or thrive in that kind of environment? (yes = good, some sense of built-in morality/fairness/peer reasoning) - Is she super spontaneous and open with you but very shy/conservative with strangers? Doesn't like going to bars. (sign of more K than r selection, investor type) - Is slightly less attractive than average or slightly older. (ready to settle down, tired of being used/tired of all the shallow one night stands, feels the fertility clock ticking) - Little makeup/sexy outfits or only for you. (investor type instead of tester type)

@Meister, why not settle for a woman who completely shares your political ideas? Objecting to women politically/in the abstract doesn't justify ostracizing all individual women imho. I think Stefan's life provides a good example of this. Same with racism, i object to the political idea of African men coming to Europe, because it leaves their county in a greater mess. Or they come here to get welfare. Does that position automatically mean i must ostracize every individual African man i see? Even if i can convince him of my position and he actively helps me stop other Africans from coming to Europe? In evolution it doesn't matter much if you get killed or don't reproduce at all. I think you're smart. The planet could use some more of that. If you don't, others (Muslims/Africans) will take your place.

Come on lads, we can do better than MGTOW. The guy in the video below is not particularly known for his steady relationships. But i think he makes some very useful points in the context of this discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InkU6XN5jfg

Anyone tried https://www.upwork.com/ ?

Try getting the argument from the theoretical to the practical. "Okay so suppose i agree with the 'unfairness', how do we effectively enforce a law that bans inheritances?" - do you think simply registering what people have in the bank is sufficient? *cough* precious metals *cough* cryptocurrencies *cough* - do you think putting cameras and microphones inside of peoples private homes should be a tool for law enforcement? and of course the golden oldie: - if I don't agree or don't comply, do you personally support the initiation of force against me?

5:50 "Either Japan had to be crippled by no-oil or they had to strike. But certainly America had forced their hand in this way" Sounds like the USA only ostracized Japan, violence not justified. That being said, I would ofcourse agree that breaking the arm of a guy you don't like and in response he kills your entire home town is the worst dick-move ever and morally unjustified. (analogies: you = Japan, he = USA, breaking arm = killing some "disposable males" at Pearl Harbor) Now I wonder exactly at what point you should stop using violence against someone who used violence against you. Does doing max 150% of the damage back make the remainer morally unjustified? Or would pure ostracism/defense have worked? Tricky stuff!

I'm with Dsayers, art is personal and subjective (like religion imho). Any movie, music, picture, text, braille that generates emotion can be considered art. I can appreciate pictures of complex systems, like nature/forests, animals, marine life and the human body. Each adult human is the selfish/cooperative voluntarism of at least 15 trillion individual primitive animals (cells). https://thebodyboughtandsold.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/death-and-art/

Indeed happy birthday Stefan! About the video 'Turning 50', as always: great video & wise words, well appreciated! (as for showing love/donating: yes i feel that i owe FDR a respectable sum after watching every video for a few years now. But my practical request still stands: please generate private bitcoin-addresses per forum-user so that there can be no confusion about who donated what amount)

Focusing mainly on step #1, I really feel attracted to your idea. The "Liberland project" is pretty close to what you're describing though that is not attractive to me due to the small and expensive space. Am i correct in comparing this idea to Adam Kokesh's current homesteading project? I see some big hurdles though. What if... what if some really evil people within the group decide to: - work for other people within the group and NOT pay a 21% tax to the host country? - completely ignore building codes, disallow police on their roads, don't register firearms, smoke weed in public,...? Unfortunately i think the current world would simply halt the project when these "criminal manifestations" begin.

Standard view from quasi educated socialists: I'm kinda disappointed by the debate in this video. Seems like emotional interruptions from John Stossel instead of well thought out rebutals. I totally recognise this as many people in my circle (including family) here in europe think like this. And no they're not oligarchs or people that "just want more", they're quite successful people. Somehow the whole Scandinavia-is-great-narrative and the "work together for the whole group" socialist/altruist narrative keep persisting. Some core socialist arguments: Without a violent monopoly on force and wealth-redistribution, the super-wealthy will: 1 let people die on the streets during medical emergencies 2 leave the chronically ill or old to suffer in their homes 3 let poor people starve in front of supermarkets 4 use and expand the govt for preferential legislation & licenses (the crony capitalism argument) 5 create a police state in their favor Points 1 -> 3 are imho testiment to a child-like way of thinking, plus the impirical invalidity of this statement. But this can be tough to explain to people who are well-read and confident in science but know nothing about self-knowledge and economics. Points 4 & 5 are quite tough to quickly rebut imho. Stefan's fighting-cancer & titanic -analogies can help out here. Plus it kinda proves why minarchism is not enough, full philosophical anarchism is needed (which, unfortunately, can be too much to swallow for ppl). Hope this helps a little bit but i'd certainly appreciate more vids from FDR in this area. And calm debates with skilled socialist speakers.

Guess for now we still have to make do with http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Subspace_communication

Hey welcome! I'm from the dutch tax farm. I've been to the Belgian one quite a few times. I've seen the well structured (but very strict/hierarchical) Belgian schools first hand. Very good crafts departments, unbelievable to see actual skills & value added to young people. For some infos & opinions on precious metals, check out: https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/45991-regarding-precious-metals-in-preparation-of-economic-collapse/