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Did I upset you, when you said you were flattered and I said "a little", more interested in being a hermit? I know once, when I was at a Wedding for a 2nd cousin at London Zoo, I was asked if the food was Ok by the Bride and Groom, and I said "no not really", too many beans, square plates and a silly drizzle decoration. I wonder if I should try more to feign social conformity. Women are generally more reliant on social approval, I remember Milo saying that women later in life living alone are generally miserable. Also I think Stefan has said that accoding to the data.

Probably a good hobby to have, in the past I was pretty hooked on videogames. What sort of non-fiction do you write? Don't really read much poetry, the only one that comes to mind is "The Hollow Men" in the movie Apocalypse Now, but not exactly a girly movie.

So are you a fiction author then? A little, but mostly because I'm actually interested in being a hermit. Although have to find a reliable means of subsisting. Cliche but my ideal place would be a desert Island somewhere, as long as I didn't starve to death or die of thirst. Wouldn't mind taking the rough with the smooth, even if it involved being near eaten alive by insects. Currently looking at walking to Gibraltar in Spain, from Almeria, camping out on the way, could take a while....

@S1988 Why not talk more about your interests, than what other people think you should do and what you think they should do. Talk about being a hermit for instance. I'm looking at getting some land out the way somewhere, checking out of society. I think it's partially genetic being Northern European.

Was reading some of "The Art of The Argument." and I remember a part of it saying something like as long as you get the "defintions correct" resolving The Argument becomes as easy as turning a key in a lock. Thought I might aim at creating my own basic dictionary. Maybe a few people might like to throw around a few suggestions & definitions related to SELF KNOWLEDGE and PHILOSOPHY? PHILOSOPHY Philosopher: Ethics: That which is universally preferable. Also the affirmation of Property Rights. Morality: That someone has moral agency; a respect for property rights. Immorality: That someone simultaneously attempts to affirm and deny, property rights. Amorality: That someone neither affirms nor denies, property rights, merely that they act. Virtue: Acting for the betterment of humanity a persons life? Nietzschean Morality: A form of Amorality?; where the person reflects on, the fact that “To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities—I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not—that one endures.” Tribal Morality?: Where member are supportinate to the rules and customs of the tribe, where property has not yet developed into a fully distinct concept and Dominance and Submission prevail, but also cooperation & community. Certainty: That which is known. Existence: That which is. Reality: The imposition of measurement? Empiricism: Statement of the Apparent. Rational: Irrational: Arational: The Argument: An Art form. Imperative: Subjective: Objective: Objectivism: Freewill: Determinism: Truth: Logic: True: False: Justice: SELF KNOWLEDGE Psychology: Consciousness: Conscientiousness: Neuroticism: Openess to Experience: Agreeableness: Extroversion/Introversion: Ethos: Belief: That which is apparent. Willpower: Motivation: Desire: Addiction: Apathy: Authentic: False Self: Survival: Death: Focus: Concentration: Responsibility: Awareness: Entertainment: Joy: Happiness: Comfort: Perception: Illusion: Delusion: Rage: Anger: Madness: Insanity: Sanity: Genius: The "I": Egoism: Relationships: The Deal: An Art Form. Altruism: Sacrifice: Suffering: Commitment: Integrity: Honour: Shame: Narcissim: Love: Self-Love: Evil: "Freudian" Unconscious Mind: The theory that processes beyond your awareness influence your behaviour A Subconscious Mind: Commonplace Book: Record of ones plans and changes in behaviour. Choice: Confusion: Freewill: Projection: Monism: Physicalism: Existentialism: Dualism: Mind Body Dichtonmy. Meditation: Introspection: Enlightenment: GOD: Pantheist: Theist: Atheist: Egoism: Virtue: Profit: Religion: Belief: Faith: Dogma: Ayn Rand: Aristotole: Immanuel Kant: Stefan Molyneux: Nietzche: Plato: Socrates: Montagine: Carl G Jung: Jordan Peterson:

I can't prefer to be a Masai Warrior or an Inuit. Can I prefer to have another personality than I have, if someone is irrational can they ever be shifted out of it? Perhaps in that case a person would be amoral, "The morality of Genghis Khan" or "The Joker". Though morality only exists when at least 2 people acknowledge it? do they do so through talk or through action? False dichtonmy, talk being an action. Can one person be moral, when everyone else is immoral or amoral? is such a situation possible? I guess you could have a completely amoral society as with early man. So as Murder is Objectively Evil, and murder is distinguished from killing by the fact that someone has "Moral Agency" respect for property rights. That we are talking shows a preference for talk, as opposed to violence. (Stefan inspired, possibly word for word). But what if respect for ones own property rights is not enough? Thinking of the Russian Revolution the most aggressive, culling the least. How would you distinguish Morality from Virtue? Could it be possible to be amoral and virtous? I think what I am getting at is, if morality is to have value or worth shouldn't it endure over immorality. If everyone was moral are they by that fact amoral? I guess that is why the question of Freewill is so prevelent. Few defintions, feel free to pick at... Ethics: That which is universally preferable. Also the affirmation of Property Rights. Morality: That someone has moral agency; a respect for property rights. Immorality: That someone simultaneously attempts to affirm and deny, property rights. Amorality: That someone neither affirms nor denies, property rights, merely that they act. Virtue: Acting for the betterment of humanity a persons life? Nietzschean Morality: A form of Amorality?; where the person reflects on, the fact that “To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities—I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not—that one endures.” Tribal Morality?: Where member are supportinate to the rules and customs of the tribe, where property has not yet developed into a fully distinct concept and Dominance and Submission prevail, but also cooperation & community. Ethos: Subjective: Objective: Truth: Logic: True: False: Could do with a FDR Dictionary. Yeah best let people starve if you can help.

@S1988 Why are you even posting, about not wanting a family? Why not pump out some kids for company, as opposed to being a 45 year old cat lady.

So all women are Hookers

Define God. Besides without God wouldn't have the Indiana Jones movies, plus other entertainment.

Pfft, calling the kettle black, your grammar & proof reading it isn't exactly perfect either, I'll bear in mind to watch my grammar more carefull . More interested in covering different information ideas related to Willpower in the mind of inquiry. "Would you like to know more?". Though the page has 800 views so far so maybe someone "will". Debate would be fine, If I say willpower comes from an "Ethos, which must be embodied, because the complexity of existence is too great to comprehend" you say willpower comes from "integration at heart, because with it is certainty." Then perhaps we already have an answer, which would perhaps be "philosophy". Maybe get to something irreducible "The human soul or something." Though rather than try and reduce to certainty(which would be no freewill), perhaps there is a way of affirming a positive Ethos, maybe there isn't. Perhaps to burn off, whatever delusions people have about the world is enough, so what is left is your soul if you have one. 2 occurences of J.Peterson. (I like to weight ideas, by credibility & cross-referencing). The Blue(Your response) & Black (My response). Do this to keep the page compact, perhaps word processor like, but I in general don't care, however I can squeeze more information from the forum. Duplicate paragraph. What exactly are you trying to do construct or desconstruct "Willpower comes from _____".

"DEMARCATION!!! DEMARCATION!!!" - "Cross of Iron." Thought of the word from the movie "Cross of Iron" 1977. Some male to female relations in the film. Guy get's his penis bit off. Another guy gets stabbed to death "possibly" thinking about rape. Perhaps kind of random, thought it was a good movie. Generally the people who are exposed to "better ideas", end up getting killed, anyway.

(given that humans haven't died out) 'There's a place for everything, everything has it's own place.' The sorting and experiencing of information is done by different agents that are all part of the same unity, hence my liking to the MEco system (Stefan Molyneux) analogy, even if I know that biological 'wirings' must be included too. It isn't a perfect system and far from understood(epigenetics), but it's (the state of evolution) what we've got to work with. I'm constantly amazed (even today) by each and every new discovery that only yields 'two more' additional questions about how the mind works so much in harmony with the body and vice versa. I'm here to ask and ask and observe and maybe ask some more when seeing something intriguing... I think we are only starting to scrape the surface of the mechanism that had been driving us here. (not enough efficiency at sorting, plenty of data... that's also why philosophy is soooo important)I don't have a clue other than the argument that child beating, being years on end treated with iron will does more harm on the long run than curiosity and nurturing behaviour would... that's me, I'm spent. Sorry, but I lack the proper historical depth to make a better argumen Place for everything, though I do think low conscientiousness and high conscientiousness can compete on the surface the distinction would between say having a meadow vs a neatly trimmed lawn. I think in addition to Conscientiousness is also the phenomena of Consciousness, perhaps related to Neuroticism. Though high conscientiousness apparently(according to J.Petersons, tends to reduce neuroticism). Listening to some more of "thinking fast and slow" System 1 is related to belief. Though system 2 is involved in "unbelief" & dogma or philosophy.(also was mentioned in the art of the Argument choosing between philosophy or dogma.) Exercising Philosophy or Dogma, perhaps related to developing more conscientiousness, though whether one causes the other not sure. I don't have a clue other than the argument that child beating, being years on end treated with iron will does more harm on the long run than curiosity and nurturing behaviour would... that's me, I'm spent. Sorry, but I lack the proper historical depth to make a better argument. I don't have a clue other than the argument that child beating, being years on end treated with iron will does more harm on the long run than curiosity and nurturing behaviour would... that's me, I'm spent. Sorry, but I lack the proper historical depth to make a better argument. Although from my experience Norwegians are high in conscientiousness as well, but I guess it depends on different areas, often a mix of personalities. I have met a couple of low conscientious Norwegians, but perhaps that just affirms the trend ( the I know a tall chinaman). Also I think that Scandanivan socieites are the least violent to their children. Who knows though specualting mostly, especially with Sweden setting up a scenario or at least no oppoisng a scenario likely "imho" to result in mass violence. I'm going to cross that desert!!!" Thinking. "Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs," "Now I know what a TV dinner feels like." Die hard. In my own words, nice and comfy here, we have onions, melons. Thinking of Exodus "Why?" "Their's not to reason why."? Soldier on. "I don't care, I'm going to cross it anyway." Cliche, but why did the chicken cross the road. "Don't you have other priorities?" We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.. "Maybe you should mind your own business". So true. Perhaps to be busy is to be in a state of dis-ease, where as to be relaxed (non-busy?, "I'm busy relaxing.") is to be at ease. Now I wonder if he's going to make it across or the astronaut's rocket is going to explode....

One thing having "Holy Lemonade" another thing having seperate sharia courts and massive concentration of political power in a few people. In the EU, USA, China, & Russia. Doesn't the "President"(to preside) influence affairs more than any elected politician? As opposed to being actually being a president more like Medium term dictators (Executive powers). Perhaps for a while things run "OK" (forgetting large corporate interests, covering their own arse, at the expense of competition and the detoriation of society), but eventually one "mistake" leading to all out War WW1 style. e.g big Absolutist Monarchies figthing it out. If Primeminister, premiers are only in office for short time frames, how can they actually do anything potentially beneficial, more the mechanism to claim a democracy while transfering away more wealth to special interest groups. "Intransigent minorites". At least with a Republic participants are staking their own wealth aquired or entrusted, with the motivation to try and preserve it "A negative incentive" (read a few first pages of "The Republic") What benefit does a Federation serve, than to conquer and then turn in on itself, as people loot what they can. At any rate where is the Intransigent Anarcho-Capitalist minority that is going to spread all over the world and take over with bitcoin. (Everywhere ) With any minority I would have thought they would need to have some proximity, and is an Ideology(?) classifiable as a minority? Maybe perhaps, rationality is distinct from intelligence. "Penguins of mass destruction will takeover the World!!!"

What if morality is just what is good for ones own tribe? Is it immoral to slaughter a goat? What about the motive in which it was done? For instance, I'm going to bring as much meat back to my tribe as possible so they don't go hungry(Moral) or there's a starving family of a "potentially" hostile tribe(The Samaritans), give them some meat. (virtue?).

Not medically diagnosed, but seem to meet criteria for Schzoid personality disorder.

Was listening to an audio book recently "Thinkng fast and slow." Only listened to first 2 hours or so, so far. The premise of the book though goes along the lines of having "2 systems"("A useful fiction") related to thinking. System One: Automatic and always running, but disorganised. System Two: Ordered, but slow, also determines the "I" and involves physiological changes(pupil dilation). Reading some of The Art of argument maybe it could be comparable to System 1= Inductive Reasoning, System 2 = Deductive Reasoning. The book also refered to having "Two Selves" Could be just a way of putting it in a different way to the unconscious and conscious mind. Also that attention is divided between the two systems. "The Invisible Gorilla". Personally more System One Dominant: (Low Conscientiousness) than System Two (High Conscientiousness). Was thinking how Germans are often High in Conscietiousness "an excess of Civilization" (something I remember J.Peterson saying when refering to Nazi Germany). It is possible to be High in Conscientiousness and not listen to "reason and evidence" or basically "brute, force & Ignorance"/Tyranny. I guess that would be stubborness. Is "reason & evidence" really enough though? Other questions such as credibility come to mind and the distinction between willpower and stubborness, as I have said previously willpower requires an Ethos. "I'm going to cross that desert!!!" "Why?" "I don't care, I'm going to cross it anyway." "Don't you have other priorities?" "Maybe you should mind your own business."

I guess the only country that might be a conventional military challenge is China. Unconventially though, going to take more than a freely armed militia to deal with N.Korea or anyother dictator, armed with bio weapons or nuclear.

@Jot 1) What are you studying? 2) If you get the degree does it allow much easier emigration to other countries? Is this something that could make it worthwhile for you? 3) Do you enjoy the course? 4) Could you change to another university course etc 5) Do I need the degree to do what I am studying? 6) If SHTF do you have a backup plan? 7) Personality and self knowledge are very important, record what you do in a commonplace book. NOTE: I may not reply if you comment, for a week +. Hoboing/backpacking around Basel then Spain on the 8th. So I guess perhaps take what I say with a pinch of salt.

Would it be violence to withold water like at the 4 minute mark? If someone felt they had a greivence against a person?

The term "Pure" was used as a euphemism in the tanning industry to refer to something less than "Pure" i.e Shit. Just thought I'd throw that in there, kind of random.

@barn Kindness: Someone unkind is not curious. If they were curious, they'd empathise more with a person. Curiosity is a manifestation of kindness. Science (To Know) and Con-science (With Knowing). In order for someone to be kind, they have to be at peace or calm. Trust: Comfort, to transcend comfort, the ability perhaps to go without. A person maybe comfortable or uncomfortable(dualistic), but they may also transcend the concept. Referencing the passages that I included. "Be of Good Comfort". (Be at ease, at peace). In which case comfort in a positive sense (good comfort; ie the overcoming of comfort, mitigating, B) A person of knowledge and self-opinion will be hindered from the enlightenment of Tao. (Tao; The Way, but imho could also mean "Trust", "In God we Trust")Thus, this is the beginning of ignorance! Therefore, one who cultivates himself with Tao, Embraces the original nature and indulges not in sensual nature. (A form of comfort) He abides by the fundamental Oneness and indulges not in sensory pleasures. (Dualistic way of looking at the world)Thus, abandon those desires and abide by this true essence of Tao. Attachment to worldly desires, I need various things, often addictive things (though not always) for the sake of... (Comfort in a poor, but needful sense, A) Virtue: What does it mean to choose virtue?

I would go further and say curiosity is a "Natural Act" that is part of kindness. Trust and Comfort: Yeah trust and comfort seem to be related. Comfort rots the soul, it isn't something I have thought through well enough. On some intuitive abstract level I understand. Perhaps you have some ideas? Virtue as a finite resource: Opportunity cost, there is always something else a person could be doing and where there is perhaps healing to be done, only so much can be done. Then only when a person has the basics covered in their own self knowledge. (I think in someways by knowing yourself you deconstruct, but expand your scope).

@barn "What is a friend? A single soul dwelling in two bodies." - Aristotle. If you don't get the basics right imho Trust & Kindness. You can forget about virtue. Also thought the idea of sacrifice, and the distinction between(as pointed out by J.Peterson); Your future self and other people being one in the same, as opposed to Ayn Rand's virtue of selfishness. (In "An Antidote to Chaos" Youtube) As being the correct way of looking at the potential for virtue. It would also be concordant with the Tao Te Ching. I said that virtue is not an infinite resource, not indefinite. Matthew 8 43And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, 44Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched. 45And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 46And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me. 47And when the woman saw that she was not hid, she came trembling, and falling down before him, she declared unto him before all the people for what cause she had touched him, and how she was healed immediately. 48And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace Tao Te Ching Chapter Thirty-eight A man of superior virtue is not conscious of being virtuous, hence is truly virtuous. A man of inferior virtue performs for the purpose of virtue, hence he is not virtuous. A man of superior virtue acts without action, and performs with his true nature. A man of inferior virtue acts with intentional effort. A man of superior kindness acts a natural act. A man of superior justice acts with righteousness and feelings for others. A man of superior etiquette acts according to his true self, hence no one responds to him by moving away. There, when Tai is lost, there is Te (virtue). When Te is lost, there is humanity. When humanity is lost, there is justice. When justice is lost, there is etiquette. Etiquette becomes prevalent when people fail to be sincere and honest. Hence, chaos begins. A person of knowledge and self-opinion will be hindered from the enlightenment of Tao. Thus, this is the beginning of ignorance! Therefore, one who cultivates himself with Tao, Embraces the original nature and indulges not in sensual nature. He abides by the fundamental Oneness and indulges not in sensory pleasures. Thus, abandon those desires and abide by this true essence of Tao.

Might end up with a change in governmental system, instead of a crash and burn of the welfare state. Become Balkanised like Yugoslavia & Serbia. The in group prefernce thing. Although can't see how Sweden could sustain it's current system, without mass deportations. Ultimately demographics would give you your answer, except, they've stopped taking census data. End up balkanised like Yugoslavia & Serbia. However that was preceeded by a currency crisis, although more of an end game, as the various ethnic groups were hostile to one another, probably the muslims against the rest.