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Our next meet up again at the Candid Cafe as usual. (see prior posts for details if not on Facebook) https://www.facebook.com/events/396501773851532/ Hi tullyvey, our next meet up is planned on the 14th feb

Like being woken up to the lies about govt and then the family. Feminism was the last one that had foiled my critical thinking skills. I remember feeling quite dazed after the realisation, so you have my sympathy. I guess it's perhaps worse for women, particularly those that identified with feminism. I'm now very glad I did mind, as it means I know what to look out for without being fogged by cultural expectation.

It's so good to see rich content coming from people from the board at last. It's so often been a bit hit or miss in the past with some notable exceptions. Best of luck with this venture Kevin and be sure to let me know if you need any help.

Yes, she's like the Laci Green of the UN.. Full of words, not much on experience.

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Emma's second speech at the UN published yesterday. It has become very much about women as was always suspected. She also does a nice little ditty about, what have you MEN done for the women in your life.

Bumping tomorrows show above. I will post the live stream here 30 minutes before the show commences.

Hi Michelle, If you're interested to meet people in your area, we have 2 meet up groups on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/FDRWorldwideMeetupEvents/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FDRMeetupEventGroup/ There is also a larger Facebook group for just posting and commentary too. https://www.facebook.com/groups/freedomainradio/

There is something that Stefan has said over the years that can sometimes seem trite upon first hearing it, but it's something I've begun to appreciate and understand much more in recent years. It's that, "you already know everything there is to know about him".

I would have thought 'Mangina in Chief' to have been more appropriate.. But yes what a hilarious name indeed.

My own thoughts on why people minimise your expression of empathy for them, by suggesting it wasn't your fault. Is mostly because they don't entirely connect with the injustice that was done to them. In an inverse way they are made to feel uncomfortable when someone shows compassion and empathy for their experience. Which leads them to immediately down playing it's effects.

Hasn't Tim already publicly stated things that would be considered (anarchist) crazy. The fact that he has publicly agreed on YouTube with many of the thoughts of Stefan's. This alone makes him cannon fodder (in waiting) for the MSM I think. It would seem that the party generals may have already let that ship sail.

A useful anecdote perhaps on my past relationship history. I had a young lady that I fell in love with in my mid to late twenties that I met whilst travelling in Australia. She was Scottish and I am English. I remember feeling perfectly happy with this lady and that she was indeed the one for me. I made plans to try and be closer to her. Which started by a possible move to Edinburgh from London. Big move for us Brits, less so for you Americans perhaps. That said, she said the exact same thing to me as your boyfriend said to you. As it turned out I ended up moving much closer to Cambridge where she was commencing a teacher training program and I was going to art school. Again she raised the issue about me going to Cambridge for myself and not for her, but I mostly ignored this by kidding myself that art school was my reason. As it turned out during my time there, she was unfaithful to me on two occasions. At one time almost right from under my nose. Needless to say I ended the relationship, as I was deeply hurt by this. But looking back now, she was giving me all the right hints. I was just ignoring them and not asserting my own needs with her. I was just fantasising about my needs being met. I cannot count the amount of times I've seen this happen in other relationships. In fact I even let it happen a second time, but too a much lesser degree that time. So I say all this from a position of some experience, asserting your needs in a romantic relationship is a must if you want to be happy.

I have to say, that I tend to agree with MMX here. Men are rarely so ambiguous. The only way you can approach this situation successfully is by letting him know exactly what you want from him. If your desire is to have children with him, then that is what you ask of him. It's then up to him to decide whether that is what he really wants with you. I think the confusion comes when people aren't really looking for their needs to be met. That they are unconsciously (perhaps) avoiding them. Ask yourself what do you want of this man and then ask him for it. If your needs don't match his, then I would suggest you stop wasting your time and look for a relationship that is prepared to meet your needs as much as his own. This just further fuels MMX's earlier suspicions. Ask yourself this, why on earth would you not move to a place, if it wasn't to be with him. What other possible motivation could you have? (this is a rhetorical question mind)

It would seem that Christopher Hitchins could have been diagnosed with such a disorder, as would the vast majority of men. Except in Hitches case we would be referring to it as, OCD - Oppositional Contrarian Disorder. Yet more evidence for the bias towards feminisation in our schooling system.

Feminists are so wildly economically inept and illiterate. They don't seem to have any idea about the division of labour theory. Seriously though, it seems to me that most married women get to lead a rather charmed life. I know my mother did. What is so hard about cooking a few meals and doing household chores and budgeting, whilst their husband goes out to work? They get to have plenty of coffee mornings with their fellow lady friends and when the kids are a bit older they can often pursue all kinds of hobbies at their leisure. Most men have never complained about this, because they have seen their wives as having an integral role in the development of their children. I'm beginning to see what some women share in common with children. They get given stuff for free for just being there, whereas men have to actually compete with each other for those resources. It's a kind of entitlement that can only come from those who've rarely had to lift a finger in the market place.

Sounds on the surface like you need some clarity on the relationship before you make such a move. Which I gather you understand to some degree. I'm also very conscious that you have come to a public forum to discuss this matter. Which by the way is fine, but it does beg the question as to how much (productive) communication you guys are actually having with each other. I'm not suggesting this is a bad thing, just that it potentially exposes a serious fault line in the relationship. I do think in these cases it's reasonable to get some honest answers from a partner. After all this is as much about your life as it is his. That said, approaching such a request means you should be prepared for the worst outcome as well. If you're already clear how you feel about him and your future together, then the onus (virtue wise) is on him to respond to that. I hope that helps and best wishes.

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Well I've heard him mention it a couple of times in recent months. Of course Stefan has a lot of pressure on his time, so I guess he hasn't seen it as hugely important compared to other projects. It's hardly like anyone has adequately rebutted it yet to warrant an immediate revision, but he is aware of some of the issues as Michael hinted at in his recent correspondence with you. No that is the best summary of UPB around. Actually Economics Junkie is a member of this board, although I haven't seen him post in a while. He would certainly be a great asset to your better understanding of UPB. I'm afraid I'm rather pushed on free time these days myself.

I'd say you were falling foul again of my second point I made earlier. Some people do wish to murder. However, it is universal that no one wishes to be murdered. I'm a little late to this conversation and perhaps I'm missing some of the finer points you're attempting to understand. Personally I have always considered Stefan's first book, On Truth the Tyranny of Illusion to be a great introduction to understanding UPB better. UPB is in need of some attention which Stefan has promised to do at some point. So I'm wondering whether translating On Truth might be a better place to start, until such time as Stefan gives UPB a thorough revision. Just a thought of course, not trying to dissuade you in this particularly noble endeavour. Just don't want you guys going round in circles with translating words or statements that may or may not change in future.

Right, but you see the obvious problem with trying to universalise, 'all people prefer not to kill'. Firstly killing doesn't always have to mean murder. But more importantly, some people do want to murder. What UPB does is say, ok so you want to murder, how do you feel about being murdered. At least that is how UPB would begin to test the moral theory of 'thou shalt not kill'.

Not to nit pick too much here, but I think a better example would be, 'all people prefer not to be murdered'.

I think shit tests can be a very healthy way for women to gage the strength of character in a man. I have a theory that given the mammoth amount of white knights and manginas out there in the real world, that shit tests have become deliberately more challenging for men. That said, the kind of shit test you are faced with can give you some useful information about a future with such a woman. So the shit test is as much a judgement about her, as it is you. Except in this one and only case in gender relations, it's up to the women to start the ball rolling. Be thankful for this one small concession the ladies give us.

Actually Hitler was of the Left. He was a socialist, as in National Socialist. It's a common misconception, mostly put about by the Left (for obvious reasons). Mussolini would be a more correct historical comparison I think. I don't even know who is considered 'far right' these days. They are mainly minority positions that often share way to much with leftist collectivist ideologies to even consider them as being on the right. It was mostly a slur, ironically made by the far left, which has kind of stuck with mainstream thinking these days, at least in Europe. I think it's important to better understand the Left/Right paradigm in a bit more detail. I grant you that for the most part they both traditionally promote statism and the rule of law. As a means to preserving the hegemony of power. However, the left have been busy cornering the moral position from both sides of the political fence and keep us very firmly entrenched in statist ideology. Politically speaking the right have mostly dispersed towards the Left (social conservatism), as its considered political suicide to do anything else. The rest have disappeared into political libertarianism. It's the left that ultimately holds sway in the political arena as govt dependency has increased and continues to increase. Non of this means I am of the right of course, even if I might have sympathy with some of their traditional positions. But it's important to realise that the right has no power these days. It's very clear where we are all headed into the future and it's very much of the left persuasion. This is a nightmare for most men (and by token the ensuing economy), as they try to find work in an over regulated marketplace and with less productive corporate oligopolies that prefer yes men and mainly women, rather than fully productive and creative individuals.

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