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Even in a government election we make bad voting decisions....what chance do we have in these forums to get it right. lol I agree. My point of view (and this includes FB) is that I don't censor ANYONE. On my page, I do encourage ppl to 'tone down' name calling but I don't threaten them. I just make the point that if they want to be heard, name calling hasn't proven effective but they can do whatever they want. What I noticed is that people then start censoring themselves! lol They delete comments that are unfactual or that make them look like total AHoles. it's great! It was the best experiment I have ever done. haha So this upvoting/down voting is trivial. Sure there are pros and cons but I think it's best when pepole are responsible for their own words and act or refuse to act accordingly. Because if a thread becomes hostile, the 'onlookers' can still learn something. Maybe it's reactions and language they used themselves and can see how stupid it makes ppl look. But if the computerized system blocks them then it's a lost opportunity in my opinion. Afterall it's a voluntary forum. I slightly disagree. I posted a separate comment about this (before I saw your comment, sorry for redundancy) but I feel that people naturally censor themselves when they go way too far and it's on record rather than an automated system censoring them. My example was my FB page. I don't censor anyone and I had a few people who went crazy, name calling, provoking, posting ridiculously unfactual things, etc. I left it, debunked most of their posts when threw them in a tizzy and I had the upper hand. In the end they spun out of control and deleted their comments, blocked themselves, unfriended and I didn't have to do a thing. One instance I simply told people if they were going to post graphic photos or videos to at least title it 'graphic' so no one opens it at work or in front of children and the other suggestion I gave was to avoid name calling as it proves not to convince anyone of your point but they are welcome to use the tactic. lol Then....what happened was the 'onlookers'...those not actively involved in certain discussions read on and would send me private messages about how they had the same viewpoints of a person until they started name calling and acting crazy and it caused them to consider the viewpoints I presented since I remained tactful and in the end my presentations 'convinced' them!
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regevdl replied to aro's topic in Peaceful Parenting
oh my. I am so sorry to hear about your experience. You are so brave for what you did! your dad is giving mixed messages and that is not fair. I think, in a non-urgent situation (not in the heat of the moment) tell your dad that you DO have a right to protect your sibling from abusive parenting. Ask if how does he know your expectations are unrealistic if he has never attempted them? If he tries for 1 month and it doesn't work, then no one is worse off and he can go back to being abusive I guess. Offer this suggestion. Show them scientific results of such parenting tatics and peaceful tactics. There is a podcast interview with Stefan and Dr. Ross Greene about Collaborative Problem Solving with Kids. This guy is creditialed to the max. I think your actions mirrored his own immorality and at that point, when we are faced with our own immorality it goes one of two ways....immediately change or double down. Your dad felt ashamed but doubled down (by his remark....'you think you have moral high ground'). He's making morality immoral so he will feel better. If you feel up to it I would continue to discuss and BEFORE a heated moment, conjur up some clever way to handle things. If your brother has a challenge getting to bed on time then tackle that issue. I don't know how old your brother is but here are some possibilities: 1. Offer to your dad to offer to your brother to read a book before bed (if your brother can read, he can read to your dad and mom!) ...or play a board game or tell a funny story or something....be creative 2. Have your dad ask your brother WHY he doesn't want to go to bed (then when he says why it may help provide a reasonable solution everyone can agree to) 3. Ask your dad if he likes hitting or yelling or if he would prefer to end the night peacefully? (maybe he actually likes it! ) 4. If he doesn't like it, then urge your dad to try the above for 2 weeks and see if there is any improvement. And to do it for only 1 or 2 issues /challenges your father sees against your brother. I think your dad 'gets' the concept but doesn't have anything practical to put it to use so he falls back on old habits. So you can give him the practical approaches. See....once he has IDEAS (even if you give them to him) then he has no more excuses or avoiding tactics he can play without REALLY looking like an ass. Best of luck for all of you!- 4 replies
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your words: Why excuse arabs for making a stupid decision in an election and not holding them to the same standards of accountability as jews? Because they are ....non-white? You see this alot with liberals...regarding colored people as subhuman not able to be held accountable at the same moral-standards with regard to choices they make. It would be nice if the moral standard metric was the same for both cases... not seeing much of it here though. (so again, quote me on where I excused them for making a bad decision, I am just stating the events and possible cause/effect that leads us to war today). your words: dont see how making shit up about IDL or siding with HAMAS suiciders is helpfull. The person (making the claim ONE of the vid is invalid) wich is i think total bullshit claim, is the same one making shit up on how bad IDF is because kids cant get acces to (literal quote)"toys","books", (seriously) during a warzone! your words: because i like facts instead of siding with sick islamist, your words: only a daft person would twist historical fact and call HAMAS was a (your quote) "peacefull" organisation when it was elected by the palastinian people. The UNITED NATIONS allows...Israel does not. If Israel did not ban them...the UN would not have to be involved in this issue and it's still extremely limited and difficult for them to have access to these things. I absolutely did not call them a peaceful organization. post a screen shot of where I am quoted saying that Hamas is a peaceful organization. You could have easily fact checked before posting videos instead of after. So 'drama' people like me don't have to point out and then you can repeatedly state you care about facts but check them only after mistakes are noticed. Usually fact check means checking them BEFORE passing the information along. But what do I know? >>You made a false claim the children were not combatants, they were used as such. rectification accepted. The argument (and the title of video you posted )was children as human shields. I don't recall even discussing children as 'combatants' either yes or no. Ok....so if the video shows them pulling the wire, then they need to title it as such and not the human-shield title. Silly immature drama,..i checked immediatly and posted a correction, thats not being dishonest , thats being factual. Normal people have difficulty differentiating between all the various kinds of islamic evil, so a singlular mistake is understandable. Why not check before you post it? Isn't that caring about facts so you don't mistakenly pass something that is non factual or misrepresented? I never said anyone lied, I just posted it was inaccurate and not Hamas until more facts could be given. I never said you were dishonest. I understand and even mentioned SEVERAL times that of COURSE it's almost impossible for people to know from these videos who, where, when and why we need to check before hand very carfully before we pass them along. That's not a personal attack, it's just how it is and if you read back, I mentioned that several times. I never said the blog was a lie or dishonest, just asked to provide more evidence. In any case, you can also look up Palestinian blogs. Afterall they are the ones that live with Hamas. Israelis do not have first hand access to Hamas in the society, yet seem to blog about them, which is fine....of course, they can write about what they know and I don't think it's intentionally lying but it would give a more accurate and full picture by also investating what Palestinians are saying about Hamas as well. that's all. Why only see what Israelis say about a two-sided issue and call everything factual? Even if the same answers result, at least all sides were looked at.- 131 replies
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I never claimed that Hamas is not committing atrocities. Point out where I have encouraged, approved actions of murders and jihadists. Please. Quote the exact words that led you to believe I approve of terrorists. I did show that the videos you posted, at least one, was verifiably not Hamas. Far from siding with Hamas, no? Ok. So what's the solution? Carpet bomb Gaza? I dud not say kids could not get toys in war zone. I even sourced my words! Wow. Nice reading. It shows that since 2009, Israel has banned import of books toys, and other items that would make life less dismal. You took that as meaning during this war. None sense. Look at exactly what I wrote on the subject and the article I sourced. Good day.- 131 replies
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I do not speak Arabic but I am not also making a claim on WHO, WHEN and WHERE this video is from...you are. you asked "didn't Obama give $400million to Hamas?". I don't know.....you are asking so you must have heard that....why don't you provide a source? What I have read was that in 2009, Obama sent $400million to Palestine (not directly to Hamas, ...although I am sure some got into the hands of Hamas) to loosen embargo with Gaza (what I showed earlier that you could 'not believe' regarding banning books, toys, etc to be brought into Gaza). The $3Billion we give to Israel has been going on much, much longer than this $400million that was issued as a one-time in 2009/2010 to Palestine for non-military means. You cannot equate $3biiilion plus another $225million in MILITARY aid to $400million in humanitarian aid which provides water, food, building supplies, etc. They are two separate issues and transactions so I am not sure what the connection is- 131 replies
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I'm not making this Israel's fault anymore than aiding Bin Laden in the 80s brought him back to us on 9/11..... so take it how you want. Sometimes the blowback of bad policies can take a decade or more, we just need to admit it and move on and stop using those policies. So far, I haven't heard anyone openly admit this is 'how we got here'. And so far we continue to use the same 'enemy of my enemy is my friend'... Israel isn't complaining about aiding these Syrian Rebels who are proven to have Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda infiltrates! We see they turned into ISIS and are slaughtering Christians in Syria and Iraq. How am I excusing this if I am calling for global admission that this aiding of these unknown rebels is terrible?! Check out Breaking the Silence and then talk to me about moral standards on both sides. ROFL! What? The man shooting the mortar ---I apologize....the kids pulled the wire. overall point: it wasn't in Gaza, it wasn't Hamas, it's Syrian Rebels in Syria whom the US is funding and I do NOT excuse that I am trying to educate and stop it. Seriously.... you posted the video on a topic geared about Hamas and Israel and your argument is who pulled the wire and NOT that this is falsely representated as Hamas? Look, I am in no way trying to make Hamas look innocent. I know that's a convenient spin on people who are after accuracy. But I don't believe in 'trumping up' and 'fogging up' facts and reality. If Hamas is doing these terrible things, then it should be very easy to provide evidence. but so far, you and many others provide obscure and clearly falsified videos that are of another terror group in another part of the world, possibly at a different time period. What do you mean I am avoiding the 1st video? The video is titled 'hamas war crimes'. I said, it's terrible any group would do this. Avoiding? Excusing? Show me proof it's Hamas and we will discuss from there, the point is that your 2nd video is not Hamas, so I am not going to quickly assume your first video IS Hamas as you have not shown me solid facts. that is not avoiding. . My observations is that it is in Syria and the rebels who the US is FUNDING.....TERRIBLE!!! Even worse! How is that avoiding exactly? You need to prove to me that this is Hamas. Either way it needs to stop, but if you say it's Hamas but it's actually in Syria, then our approach to solving the problem if we have misidentified them would be irrelevant. It's like saying the bank robber is wearing a black shirt but actually was wearing a green shirt.... we would be chasing and punishing someone in black shirt and thinking we solved the bank robbery. Who are we funding in Syria that will be the Next Bin Laden or cross over into Israel? No one knows but obviously the public doesn't want to speak up about these bad policies to stop them...only cry when the blowback occurs. I agree...they had a voting decision between a poop sandwich and spoiled eggs, neither will bring anything good. I am not excusing Arabs for making bad decisions anymore than I am excusing ISrael for participating in that bad decision anymore than I am excusing the US for their bad policies and decisions. I don't think 1800 civilians should die and more than 10,000 injured on a 'bad election decision'. That means universally that should be applied to AMericans for the illegal Iraq war, no? that was US war crime terrorism and illegal occupation that we voted for since we voted for Bush or he won by a majority. So I should agree that millions of American civilians should lose their lives to pay for their error? How is that not clear? I hear a lot of people say, 'they allowed this, they voted for them, etc'. it's like saying the jews voted for hitler and alllowed him to carry out atrocities. it's absurd. Hamas was not as radicalized back then. and they used violence and intimidation so to treat it as if this was fully voluntary and compliant among the civilians is an exaggeration of the reality. Look, what Hamas is doing is terrible. But also, you cannot bury your head in the sand when Israels in Sderot (a village very close to Gaza and it bombarded by rockets) go outside to 'enjoy' the bombing activity and then turn around and cry that they are running for their lives and live in a holocaust situation. You cannot be the victim and the observer at the same time. So, if they feel putting themselves in danger is more important, that's their decision, but let me make it clear.....it doesn't help their case and if you want to 'win' the moral war, rest assure the enemy is waiting to exploit these ideas and actions that weren't very well thought out. Just an FYI.- 131 replies
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I thinks it's a great idea and what a project ! wow. I am not sure if you acheived 'story of your enslavement' translated to Hebrew. For me, this was my first and introduction to Stefan and one of the most impactful videos of my life so I would highly recommend translating that to Hebrew! My Hebrew is terrible so I wish I could offer more assistance. I have lived in Israel for 3 years and the 'control' is so obvious to me. Had I moved here 10 years ago, I would be another slave but now that I how to recognize invisible shackles, it's clear the amount of collectivism and lack of real philosophy and consistancy I see here. Don't get me wrong, I love the people here but as far as a shift of consciousness that could help the economy on local/national levels, solution approaches to the Palestinians conflicts, etc it's severely lacking. So I would really rally behind translating "Story of your Enslavement" first and foremost. I would also recommend searching on youtube "Philosophy of Liberty'. It's a short ( I think 8 minutes) animation with text video that could easily be translated to Hebrew (easy for me to say! HAHA). Anyway, what I notice in Israel is that their version of 'liberty' and what they THINK Democracy is, is not what it really is, if that makes sense. Their version of freedom, equality, etc is only in comparison to their rigidly theocratic neighbors. It's like putting a good looking person next to a deformed, maimed person and bragging how beautful they are lol But it doesn't define beauty. So I feel the short video thoroughly, quickly and practically shows what liberty is and isn't and allows one to think how that is applied or not applied in current society.
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Jacobt: the bottom video you posted is not Hammas. It's the Syrian rebels the US is funding. The exact video was posted in February or March 2014 from Syria.- 131 replies
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Oh lordy..... I have been at this for a long time, even before this particular war begun and it's exhausting and repetitive work. I have lived in Israel for 3 years now so here I go. First: Look up Breaking the Silence and come to your own conclusions. Second: Israel propped up Hamas as a counter to Arafat. Just as we propped up Bin Laden to counter Russia in the 80s (and subsequently many other terror organziations since then **cough cough...Syrian Rebels massacaring Christians and flooding into Iraq as ISIL*** But I digress. Third: Hamas is just as dangerous to the Palestinians as Israel so keeping score isn't helpful and only exploits the dead innocents. Fourth: While Israel 'hesitated to respond to the rockets landing in Israel, the global community to have demanded some sort of effort to evacuate as many civilians and transport them to West Bank or demand Egypt's participation or interim camps etc. The global community failed the civilians in this way. Fifth: Gaza is about 25mi by 10 miles so the nice 'IDF text or phone call warnings' are really only to make Israelis feel good. I have spoken to HUNDREDS of Palestinians and Gazans. I quote, "In Gaza, living is dying". Israel has banned school supplies, books, toys, etc to enter Gaza through Israel, so smuggling is the method of choice to get even reasonable things in Gaza and once you give them no option to smuggle, then it opens the door for more criminal/sinister things, no? Also, to say, 'you have 5 minutes to evacuate your home'... and then condemning those who stay: hypocrite. Their home will be destroyed in its entirity. photos, keepsakes, everything. So to just quickly decide that in 5 minutes with NO other SAFE option to go is a quick judgment and dehumanizing criticism. Should they stay in their home and risk being criticized by MSM or leave and be homeless in a WAR ZONE where they don't know where IDF will bomb next? At least in their home, they KNOW IDF will warn them, on the streets, they have no idea who's home will be the next Hamas target, etc. Israel Is WAYYYYYYY over using the 'human shield' excuse. I know in some cases, yes but it drastically glosses over the dynamics there as I tried to detail above. Also, some are ready to die not for martyrdom but life there is so incredibly hopeless. There are whole areas destroyed. where the hell can these people safely go? I have found Israeli news AND Arab news BOTH using falsified photos and vidoes to push this war. The 'kidnapped' solider was NEVER kidnapped, he died in a suicide bomb by Hamas that broke cease=fire...bad, yes! But sending more troops to look for a non-missing solider is DANGEROUS and reckless. Furthermore, last week the IDF claimed they completed their operation and was awaiting word from Netyanyahu to pull out of Gaza. No word, no word then...oopsy..... fake kidnapped solider...better stay in. People called out the lie and now he's finaly starting to pull out. That's why you have to be objective and call out the truth when you see it so it protects soliders AND civilians. Also there was a time when some Gazan boys were playing soccer on the beach....they did as the IDF told them....stay out of the way and STILL two IDF missiles bombed and killed them. the IDF admitted it was mistaken identity and the media spent all day (I'm not joking) saying repeatedly how 'well, it's a mistake...what can you do? Afterall, people complain that IDF is not practicing precise hits and here is a clear example of a PRECISE hit. I mean they saw the boys and only bombed that area and nothing around. This type of 'commenting' and thus public parroting back on FB and general conversations that can be seen/heard world wide IS one of the primary reasons people are questioning Israel's motives and intensity. Like it or not, it's useful to know that, in my humble opinion because as it makes Israelis feel justified and good, to the rest of the world it really says, 'look...we make mistakes, who doesn't but even our MISTAKES are really not mistakes if you look at it 'this way.'. it's sickening and heartless to conversate about a 'mistake' in such a way, to point out that even in the deadly error it was still done correctly. THIS is what is pissing people off...even turning Israelis off, so just fair warning for anyone who wants to keep their head in the sand. the rockets (and one landed nearby me and my children this weekend) are NOT ballistic. They are empty vessels. Dangerous? yes, but consider Israel has warning systems, bunkers on their side. But Even IF Gaza had these warning systems, the buildings cannot obviously withstand the BALLISTIC bombs Israel is landing. THAT is the difference people. So Israelis say...well our gvt loves us and warns us. Hamas doesn't warn their ppl and wastes money on tunnels rather than bunkers. Those bunkers could not withstand the bombs anyway, so who cares about this silly argument....again...it's just a way to make Israelis feel good and gloss over reality. More than 80% of Palestinians oppose Hamas and oppose violence resistance against Israel but their voices are silenced twice and they are victimized twice. With that said, I hear so many people say 'well they voted for them'. Remember, Israel propped up Hamas and THEN we wanted to spread our democracy and guess who they voted for! If Israel 'legitimized' them and people voted for them..... how can we complain about the bad results! ? lol ALSO.....the deeper message is...if Israel propped them up AND the people voted for them, then doesn't it show that the people used Hamas as a bridge for peace with Israel? Too bad Hamas took it to another direction but that should be a clue. If you and I are enemies and yet we agree on a similar group to represent us, then it shows we are one step closer to working together. But to blame now the civilians is like saying the Jews voted for Hitler and 'allowed' him to do what he did and it's up to them to take over the SS. No one could EVER get away saying something so untrue and absurd. I encourage ALL of you to visit FB pages: Seeds of Peace Israel loves Palestine Palestine loves Israel Israel loves Iran to join the REAL conversations with peopleon both sides of the conflict and looking to discuss civilly and compassionately and bridge gaps. The people there do not believe the state has the answers and have had more than enough chances and fail. So they are taking voluntary approaches to peace among citizens. Please, I urge you to participate! Thanks everyone.- 131 replies
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Any advice for a soon to be homeless lady?
regevdl replied to CallMeViolet's topic in General Messages
I'm sorry for the circumstances. Search in your area for homeless shelters (at least for food/shower/bed/security). Seek out art shows and craft shows, etc in order to generate some income with your art to give you some capacity of self-sustainability. The gym idea was a clever idea! I am not sure what you mean by 'just because you need their help, it make you their slave'. If it's in terms of a religious charity and expecting conversion...yeah.... I would avoid that but if someone offers you food/shelter and maybe wants some volunteer help or a way to gain working experience in exchange then that is not a slave situation. negotiate a fair trade where you both are better off and it's a consensual agreement. example: free room/board/meals if you volunteer 15 hours a week or something like that. Keep us posted so we know you are ok! -
"Coming out" as an atheist. //* Personal Rant *//
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I am so sorry for your experience but in a way excited for you when I read that your 'friend base' went from 700 down to 4.... quality over quantity, my friend! You will adjust to the knew you as far as attracting the RIGHT people who are honest, like minded and non judgmental and everyone else will quickly fall by the way side and it really saves a lot of headaches in the long run and pain and agony from being afraid to expand awareness for the 'comfort' of others. We should be encouraged to learn truth in a constructive way so anyone not on board with that wouldn't produce any positivity anyway. Truth, reason and logic can be a lonely path but you are not alone. -
I guess my suggestion on 'type' was geared beyond phyical attractiveness and should include the character of the woman, intelligence, humor, etc. other ways she would be attractive or desireable. Obviously if you have a range of 'looks' that are desireable to you, then great but you must also envision personality qualities, intelligence, etc that also fit into the overall. That might take more time and effort to ponder on the 'whole package' you are looking for, especially if you do think about relationship over just 'a bang'. With all respect, your mother probably felt threatened by those girls your brother brought home. If all she could do was criticize their looks but not their quality in character, then she (as in taste of men) has a poor judgment of character and then you and possibly your brother were not taught how to properly judge character in people, only focused on looks. You don't have to answer 'out loud' per say but maybe reflect back on those types of things your mom criticized about the women your brother chose....were they character or 'features' (physical or otherwise) that she lacked in herself? Also, if she criticized them after, and she whole heartedly felt that they were wrong for her own son whom she would seemingly care for his happiness and well being...why wait until after and not before/during to prevent him from being with 'bad' women? That seems a bit cruel...adding insult to injury. A loving mother would look after and warn her son of predatory women. If your brother chose a good woman but not 'pretty' enough or I am not sure what her complaints were, but then she's just being superficial and exposing qualities she lacks. She would feel threatened by strong assertive women, for example, if she is vunerable to manipulation by men and not standing up for herself. so it seems that you value her opinion too highly when she seems superficially critical and has less credibility in the choices she has made and not being able to prevent or reason with your brother in his choices (again..maybe they were good choices for him but she felt threatened by them my mirrioring qualities that she lacked). And by your valuing her opinion in high regard (knowingly or unknowingly) might be the cause in your severe hesitation with engaging in women to a certain level.
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I'm sorry for your troubles and thanks for being so honest in expressing some difficult experiences. Maybe I can put a 'woman's' point of view on the subject, for what it's worth. I don't want to make assumptions or accusations but it seems your mother doesn't have a really picky taste in men. This might have something to do with difficulty in finding 'the right' woman because you seem to be aware of this and not want to choose women like your mother, yet not sure what really fits your taste, maybe you haven't explored it. I actually respect how you stated your turned down certain opportunities in the reason that you didn't want to do it just for the sake of doing it, very honorable. So maybe look into yourself to explore qualities of a woman who you would want to date, attract, kiss, be physical with, etc. In each case it seems that the women were drawn or attracted to you and you either attempted to engage (or backed out) rather than you feeling anything towards them. May I ask in those cases if you would have noticed these girls/women had they not shown you that they were interested? So rather than just see who is interested in you and then decide, maybe figure out what qualities you would like in a woman (even if not perfect or wife material as you are still young) but just a starting point to build on once you acquire more experience. And once you have a sort of 'blueprint' then you might start noticing those women rather than them being invisible, if that makes sense. , if you haven't had to work hard to attract women then you are going to be more picky or it loses the 'chase' and you are possibly 'busy' in dealing with the women that are attracted to you to even sit and think what type of woman YOU would like to attract. It's like if I go shoe shopping and as soon as I enter the store, 3 saleswomen/men approach me with different shoes to try on and look I have had no time to browse or decide do I want sports shoes or heels or sandals, etc (cheezy analogy I know! lol) I am too caught up in saying NO to this sales person and telling another sales person ...sure...i'll try that on and then change my mind and such. So next time, I can think about what shoes I want BEFORE I go into the store and then browse the options, etc, try a few on that seem to match and maybe will maybe won't but will be much more manageable and I could be more confident in dealing with the 'sales people' drawn to me as far as politely declining or what-not. Best of success to you!
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I don't think that was a waste of time at all and you answered as much as you felt confident in doing so. Why are people suggesting that? So many people can look at honest, truthful discussions with others as a win/lose battle. Meaning, if you don't make their jaw drop, then you fail in teaching them anything. I think that is a fallacy. We NEVER know what words we say to people will have an affect or WHEN it will have an affect. My guess is, that he is a military man for quite some time. A good little soldier and NO ONE has ever said anything that has challenged him or made him actually 'think' or consider things outside of missions and operations and commands. ...until you came along. lol So your few word response may not have been a 'ah ha' moment for him, causing him to grovel at your feet and shed his fatigues and rip up his military contract.... but I guarantee it cracked his protective shell and he will now be more susceptible to 'accidentally' or deliberately encountering more truths. It's like when hubby and I decided to have a baby everywhere I looked I saw pregnant women! lol I'm sure they were all around me before, but I never noticed because it didn't align with my consciousness, if that makes sense. We need to stop looking for immediate validation from people and TRUST that you are one part of their process. If you haven't read George Orwell's 1984, do so. The part when they realize there is an 'underground' resistance but they will never know how many numbers are part of it so long as they each do their part to tear down the immoral structure of society.That's how I see people who are dedicated to truth and honesty and liberty movements etc. We may never see the results of our efforts....so long as we continue and pass those methods to our children etc. Maybe you are at their beginning, maybe the middle, maybe the end. and not everyone will 'wake up'. I can't remember or even know how to contact the people who so-called 'cracked my shell years ago. I cannot pinpoint who or what or when. But I DO recall the moment I myself recognized my conscious shift. It wasn't spontaneous, it was a universal tipping point where all those seeminginly meaningless and 'annoying' comments people would say along the way stuck with me and I didn't realize it and then one day, a random video of a guy shouting in NYC about Federal Reserve shook me to the core and made me aware that I was aware. So in this case, you are one piece to his revelation and you will never get credit for it but that doesn't make it a wasted effort, let's hope he will encounter others to reinforce but if not....what was heard cannot be unheard. So, great job!!
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Good point actually. Atheists aren't really spurred in a common direction to act in a certain way, as you pointed out. Many I have come across do have the same high moral standards as religious people (that don't use their religion as a political or social weapon). your response actually helped. thanks!
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To answer your question, yes. My children are 5 & 7 and I have stopped myself, took a deep breath and apologized, etc. I took another step further than even in a time when things were already calm that I made a point to tell them that mommy is working hard to stop yelling and getting angry, etc and it's ok for them to stop me if they see me in a weak moment. etc. Yes, I can understand your angst in what you are preparing for and you are very strong and brave and much better off in facing those challenges. I I wish you as much success in your therapy sessions. We never know what 'success' will look like. Success may look ugly and violent at first. Yeah, many people just need to be touched in a nice, healthy, non sexual way, you know? It has many benefits on so many levels, even if the person is not experienced in emotional healing it can still help with your nervous responses that your body still holds in memory (and I wouldn't recommend deep tissue massage)....just the nice relaxing kind. Obviously the choice is yours but I am a licensed professional therapist so why I would even feel credible in suggesting such things.
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Okay Kids it's NAP time:) See what I did there?
regevdl replied to DCLugi's topic in Libertarianism, Anarchism and Economics
don't confuse governments with rules of laws. NAP is that all laws apply to EVERYONE (even those representatives) equally. See in gvt.... the entity of gvt which comprises of human individuals are exempt from many of the laws it enforces and it can only do that by way of force, coercion and intimidation. An individual who represents a mass could never get away with that unless they use force on the masses. NAP is the segway into eliminating double standards in society which you seem to really depend on. The loopholes. Human beings self organize. I have not met an anarchist or libertarian or anyone inbetween who will deny that. If there is someone out there who disagrees that human beings naturally self organize, please speak up now. Furthermore, having some social structure does NOT have to be GOVERNMENT....which essentially is centralized power. There are a million ways to skin a cat. So the libertarians/anarcho capitalists, etc claim that the centralized form of government is immoral because everything they do 'for the good of the people' is by way of force. I don't need the Red Cross to stick a gun in my back to convince me that donating blood is a good idea to help people. I happily volunteer to do so. Yet the gvt puts a gun in my back to donate guns to questionable rebel groups because somehow it's good for humanity and I have no way to opt out of that peacefully or violently. People can exist without a centralized law maker and enforcer only when people voluntarily use NAP. NAP, anarchism does NOT mean without law or without order. it's simply without master. You mentioned gvts have existed since humans started organizing. and you think by now it's shown a success?! lol the same thing repeats itself! maybe it's time for a truly new idea. not a repackaged version of a centralized gvt. Isn't that the essence of human advancement? Doing something not done before? I hate to use a youtube illustration as a source but I found this an accurate representation of the dos and don'ts in a civil society that most ppl would subscribe to but we have fallen away from. why have we fallen away from...because of the use of force, coercion and intimidation. We can't 'opt out' peacefully without force being used against us. Of COURSE there can be a 'leader' or a spokesperson or ambassador. absolutely. there is no reason force is needed in such a case. It happens..yet....but that means it should continue? no. If you see NAP AS the rule of law....gvt actually disappears but takes nothing with it because centralized governments create nothing. Land will still exist (Native americans practiced property rights between tribes). technology and information/knowledge still exists, government creates nothing and once it's gone, we will be able to self organize peacefully. It's not to say that crazy psychos won't roam from time to time but gvt obviously can't stop that now yet no one demands gvt perfection...too busy poking holes in the forward advancing ideas I guess. -
Okay Kids it's NAP time:) See what I did there?
regevdl replied to DCLugi's topic in Libertarianism, Anarchism and Economics
It's not saying fair wage, roads, etc are aggressive and wrong, it's stating HOW they are obtained, funded. Roads can be built without jamming a gun in someone's back. (ever heard of toll roads? pay per use?) Private security? I mean even now, banks are buying or heavily subsidizing NYC police so the cops tend to work in interests of the banks more than the people and the people still need to pay the taxes for police force. ?? A private company could never get away with that.. Companies can pay fair wages and will attract better/more employees by doing so than their competitors who are exploiting their employees....without a gun in their back. Companies are already doing that without the gvt making a law (force/coercion) to do so. That's the NAP....it has nothing to say about which policies are right or wrong only that you shouldn't use force to apply them to society. If they are a really good idea and morally acceptable, people will willingly accept and apply them. Is anyone jamming a gun down my back right now as I right to not slander or name call? No. because I realize, w/out government coercion and aggression, that name calling and violent disagreance doesn't produce anything useful. I don't need a law to tell me that or internet police, etc. Pollution, so there is a gun to our back to pay subsidies to companies who have the worst record of pollution and yet no recourse, rarely any prevention. The EPA? ha! what a joke. It's not saying, yay! go pollute, it is suggesting that if you cause damage to person or property you are personally liable to pay for those damage. That usually is enough of a deterrent for individuals not to pollute beyond a reasonable means. of course we all pollute by merely existing. every breath is a pollutant. Even WITH aggression, it's not stopping/preventing or reducing pollution, but yes. NAP should be the culprit of pollution? NAP could be a better (not perfect) solution to environmental hazards. Just ask those shore towns in Alaska how well they are being compensated for property/health/income damages due to subsidized oil companies that pollute their water and then think if those companies were personally liable w/out the protection of gvt, if they would be able to continue to exist or carry on such negligent ethics. Do you actually think GOOD ideas need force? No one forced me to buy a smart phone, yet I did anyway because it's a really great technology and I find it useful to my needs. I have never met anyone that says fair wages are bad and immoral but see...this doesn't point out how much companies need to pay in regulation fees that could easily could be applied to higher wages so the argument is that the gvt force/intervention is wrong. Regulations are only a deterrent to competitors of that industry. I am a first hand witness as I used to own a private moving company and the housing crash in 2008 was actually felt by the moving industry in 2007 without context to what was happening or about to to happen. Most private businesses crashed (with trifecta of outrageous fuel and diesel hikes) and wouldn't you know....the subsidized, highly lobbied moving businesses wanted to pass more regulations (that they could afford but would crush mom and pop businesses) and then they came along and bought up each of those small private companies for pennies on the dollar. This was before I had ANY idea about NAP or libertarianism but the evidence was clear to me what was going on and I refused to sell to those vultures. Also, the article mentioned "Rothbard implies". that is up to the interpretation of the author of this article. Did Rothbard say children should starve or not. implication is not quotation. -
Someone posted this on facebook.... thoughts?
regevdl replied to NeoCortex's topic in General Messages
**scratching head** Basically what I understood is this person is encouraging you choose sides of the oppressed version of nationalism to combat the oppressor version of nationalism and thus making the oppressed the oppressors and giving you another frog to jump over (leap frog analogy lol) and always feel you are 'fighting for the little guy'. This person is bascially describing the current state of affairs (and international affairs) but I think they think they are exposing something new and profound. :-/ I am 'proud' to be American but I am not nationalist. My 'pride' comes from the fellow citizens within the imaginary borders called The United States where I was born and raised. the pride of the positive interactions I had with those people, of the inventions and creations, etc...nothing to do with the gvt or members of gvt (the oppressors). I could say the same of the people of the world. those who have invented things from other tax farms that advance humans as a whole. I am equally proud for them but if they are part of an oppressed tax farm, I should support that tax farm so they can become the oppressors? mmmmm...not so much. -
I never use that phrase but this is a question to the atheists, is it fair to say that atheism is an ideology? I ask because maybe that's where people lump it into 'religion' in the sense that it can attract 'collective' support so you have 'groups' of people who subscribe to this and it's neither religious nor political and knowing the nature of people....they have to label things/groups/people in order to know how to proceed. If I have a better understanding, it will help me articulate that to others who I might come across that would probably use those arguments. Thanks!
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I wouldn't put absolute words in anyone's mouths. The times I have heard him speak about daycare he also paints a picture (that commonly occurs) of spanking, high child to teacher ratios etc, being there for 10+ hours, etc. Those are the biggest factors. I personally am not against daycare but I am against poorly structured daycares and keeping children in there for long, extended hours. I'm against those without sufficient teaching methods, those with high child to teacher ratios, poor discipline methods (spanking/time out/shouting etc). When classes are small (less than 10 children) and with 2 or more teachers/care providers who actually care about child development then I think it can be a wonderful supplement and learning environment for the children. My son stayed home with me the first years of life and I taught him a LOT and loved every minute of it. After a year I put him part time (daily but not more than 6 hours/day) in a really good daycare and he thrived and loved being around other children. Giving me time to focus on my work which quality improved and my parenting improved with a little 'help'. As they say it takes a village to raise a child.... but I would stress that not all daycares are created equal. even private ones. My children also went to Montessori which was all the rage in our area at the time but not ALL were created equal. you really have to know what you want for your child and make sure you research carefully. Don't let high prices and 'waiting lists' confuse you with quality. In our experience it was quite the opposite. Bottom line, research and organizing your life to maximize the child's experience without using it as a complete crutch to replace your involvement in their lives.
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Hi Brandon! We are here, we see you....we hear you. Stick around, how can we help?
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Thank you for being so open and honest about your terrible experience growing up. It's amazing looking back what seemed 'normal' (even if we knew it wasn't internally) is now horribly damaging. I am a mother of two and have lost my temper on my kids a few times (shouting ...but no hitting or name calling, just making my point LOUDLY...bad enough...) I stopped myself and had flashbacks when I was a kid and was like..WTH am I doing?! So I stopped. I remember seeing a woman in the grocery store shouting at her child to stop shouting. That's when it really sunk in. lead by example. how can the child know/learn how to stop shouting by the mother teaching him while shouting. So it was a good 'mirror' moment for me. I too had the same experience with my mother when I called her out on some hurtful actions (not even from my childhood but adulthood!) and she played the 'gee...I don't remember that... card. It was devastating on two fronts. 1. That saying horrific things obviously is so normal for her that she doesn't distinguish it from her other comments and 2. she is totally disconnected with reading me and my emotions (or using it as a defense...equally painful). If I may suggest some healthy touch therapy as you mentioned you are prone to flinching etc as well as the therapy you had in mind. A massage by someone who also understands emotional healing can be useful to help your physical traumas heal as well! Remind your body that there is healthy, safe touch and to distinguish it from unhealthy, hurtful, threatening touch if that makes sense. All the best to you in your journey to health, peace and healing!
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Hello from imaginary confinement called Poland
regevdl replied to markovcd's topic in Introduce Yourself!
I love your title. 'imaginary confinement called Poland'. classic! lol. Welcome, I'm also a newbie on here but not to Stefan's podcasts etc. I would also like to recommend Tom Woods. Stefan and he did an interview together. it's the same philosophy in a different package. I love both of their approaches.