PatrickC

She clearly was educated enough to do an engineering or computer science degree..

The server is dead I'm afraid, since not many people joined in. I don't find a lot of time or interest for it these days I'm afraid.

This reminds me of some people I've known that claimed they enjoyed school. Who am I to argue with that it seems. Personally I hated homework, it was mostly boring, but also very time consuming. Two hours an evening as I recall. It also precipitated some awful outbursts from my father as he tried to force feed me mathematics. All said and done I can't dismiss those individuals that enjoyed and benefited from it. I just have to wonder though, given the coercive nature of schooling (including homework). It reminds me of taxation that often brings benefits for the few at the expense of the many. From a philosophical perspective homework really should be a voluntary pursuit, something that a child wants to do. Albeit with the guidance of an adult of course.

Yesterdays show. Thanks for all the callers. The After Thoughts show will be next Sunday (21st Dec)

Bump! Show starts in just over an hour. See previous post for details

Just a gentle reminder for tomorrows show at 8pm (GMT) 2pm (CST) discussing The Giver. The link below will give you access to the live stream if you click into the video. Currently I have a trailer playing, which will change to a live stream after I start broadcasting at the allotted time. The show may not start for 10 minutes or less as we prepare the callers for the broadcast. Feel free to send us your views and comments via the Q&A application (you will need to be logged into your G+ account to do this). We will endeavour to get round to them at some point during the show. Otherwise, feel free to just say Hi or provide feedback on any annoying sounds you might be hearing or poor audio, thanks. https://plus.google.com/b/117472908323246912161/events/c0nrehorm8n6jgfqk45e6rdv9mc

So these 'hangers on' as I referred to them (not you, just for brevity) had other attributes that you were happy to reciprocate with them. It just seemed that coming from your first post you said that you were struggling with these guys pursuing you for sex. It's difficult sometimes to be understood in text, so perhaps I misinterpreted you. Feel free to correct me if I am. I wonder if some of that struggle comes from the fact that you really aren't listening to them and making concrete decisions about those relationships. Constructing the correct boundaries etc. Or at the very least you are not being definitive enough about the kind of relationship you wish to pursue with them. Since you might be inadvertently leading them on. I mean it might be a small picture, but it's pretty clear you are an attractive woman. I find the more attractive a women the more precise she has to be about her platonic needs with male friends. It can get all kind of foggy for the uninitiated man, if you know what I mean.

Yes, negative male stereotypes as well as disposability seem to be the mainstay themes of almost all modern movies these days. I also read somewhere that the women tend to be the largest market to attract. Since women have more effect on a man's choice of which movie to watch, particularly in the cinema. That said, I would still like to see this movie and thanks for the heads up Shirgall. I'll be sure to invite you to any eventual future Film Club discussion we might have.

PGP started a thread on the topic of MGTOW recently where some of us wrote about our thoughts on MGTOW (including myself). It's by no means comprehensive, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you asked specific questions that interested you. https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/42645-mgtow/ I am curious here. Why are you still hanging out with some of these men once establishing the needs of those relationships, in which neither parties needs were going to be met? In other words, your desire for a monogamous relationship and these men's need for casual sex. I take it some of these men moved on (from the relationship) once they understood the disparity. But some remained, presumably in the hope that you might change your mind. I guess I'm curious why you were still having a relationship of sorts (not romantic) with these 'hangers on' so to speak. What were or are the benefits for you?

Just a reminder for the coming show this Saturday where we shall be discussing the movie, The Giver. There will be a live stream available for those interested, which I shall post here 30 minutes ahead of schedule.

Anyone that would like to join the FaceBook group for the Film Club. Da link below. Also a reminder for the next call (The Giver) this coming Saturday (13th Dec). It may well be full now. But I will prioritise callers that respond with points they would like to raise on the event page itself ahead of the call. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1486805188250291/

Blimey "cattoos".. The ultimate feminist statement to say into old age spinsterdom.

I will correct myself on a definition problem I may have made. There are no such thing as irrational emotions. All emotions are valid. It's just whether we respond to them rationally or irrationally (projection), as I and kaki earlier explained.

Hi Shnugwa and welcome! For anyone else looking for FDR Meetup groups. Some available on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/FDRMeetupEventGroup/ and https://www.facebook.com/groups/FDRWorldwideMeetupEvents/

Been a while since I listened to them (probably circa 2008). But try podcast 257: Physics and the Three Laws of Logic. He also did a number of podcasts on logical fallacies as well. 531 & 532 That said, I would certainly vouch for a more comprehensive series on the topic. Email Mike (MMD) regarding your appropriate donater tier at [email protected]

This guy (gal) called you 'dumb' on a number of occasions. I'd address that before going any further with them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-peron/nathaniel-branden-1930-20_b_6265196.html I for one have benefited enormously from his work. Thank you Stefan for introducing me to his work. It was a life saver at particular times in my life over recent years. If you haven't read 'Six Pillars of Self Esteem', I suggest you do so very soon.

No problem. There are many more planned for the new year. __________________________________________________________________________ Re-sharing this Saturday's meet up in case people missed it. (please read above post for details if not connected to FaceBook) https://www.facebook.com/events/319721674885370/ As a heads up for future meet ups this year. We would normally be having one on the 20th December, but since we will be in the holiday period by then and some folk have already said they won't be able to make it. We are cancelling the meet ups until 3rd January 2015 when we shall be meeting again at the Candid Cafe behind Angel Tube station at 12pm. Keep an eye out for the event post for further details.

There are a few I guess. That said, most women are what you call passive proposers. Insofar as they will try to make it very clear they are interested without saying a word. As for radical feminists, I think a lot of them are just lesbians, that have no interest in men. And as the contradiction suggests, why not have your cake and eat it.

Our next meet up is this coming Saturday (6th Dec). FaceBook event here: https://www.facebook.com/events/319721674885370/ My fellow organiser Tom will explain in case you aren't a part of FaceBook. "Welcome to all you lovely philosopher people! This meetup is all about meeting like minded folks. I've made so many insightful connections and close friends this way that I'm especially keen for you to have that too. Meet us by the main doors to The Serpentine Gallery at 11. Look out for the thoughtful looking people stroking imaginary beards. I'll do my utmost to be there shortly before 11 and we'll wait while people turn up before heading in. Follow this link for directions on how to find it. http://www.serpentinegalleries.org/visit Once we've had our fill of the weird and wonderful art the gallery has to offer we'll head off for a stroll through Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens, eventually making a beeline towards The Science Museum where a world of learning awaits. For the full on space nerds amongst us, there are currently still tickets available to see Interstellar at the IMAX cinema in The Science Museum showing at 3pm. " 3 of us are already planned to go watch Interstellar at 3 pm already. PM me for details and mobile numbers if you are interested in joining us.

Yes MGTOW is a very personal process for me. It has very little to do with politics. Perhaps (in part) it's a way to passively approach and confront the current culture. It's not just about holding other people to high standard, but also myself.

Did I say they were free. You been here a while, stick some coin in the jar and stop whining about paying for 1% of the content.

Available as a Gold donater. And up to Philosophy King there are a total of an extra 231 podcasts and PDF's available too.

The way I approach MGTOW (or MGHOW if you prefer), is both from an historical and philosophical perspective. Historical because I think a lot of men have just forgotten about the benefits of their relationships with other men. Feminists have been so busy carving up all the male spaces by either getting them banned or enforcing female participation on them that men just have no idea of the benefits such spaces bring them. It's one thing I hand to the Christians, they often have men's meetings and groups in the church. Traditionally women encouraged these spaces because they brought a lot of profit to their families. Insofar as men networked, did business together and solved problems etc. Philosophically MGTOW is just a practical way I avoid 'unvirtuous' women, concentrate on my own needs and improve my bonds with virtuous men. Sex plays second fiddle to my long term needs as I seek mastery with the help of other men. Likewise I will reciprocate with them in a similar manner. It's funny because I think asking a guy why he's interested in MGTOW you are unlikely to be met with a collective response. Which is kind of the whole point of it of course.

Until other species start communicating with us in a rational and mutually reciprocal manner. Probably best we just leave it to Interstellar! (as in the movie, for the future)