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I like people but, I cannot handle dealing with feminists or their hypocrisy. There is a predisposition to victichood. No accountability or sense of responsibility. Let me tell you a story. I know a guy. He banged this feminist. This feminist had a LTR bf. She would demonize men yet, cheating of course is okay and lets not forget her history of crazy. Her friend was a slob, a feminist too, both quick to demonize men. The slob would get naked when drunk and try to sleep with her friend's boyfriend. This is the sort of madness of feminism. Look at the shit feminists were writing on father's day. Was there post's on mother's days about all the women who destroy their family unit? Took the father to the cleaners? Made up lies about abuse. Its gross. There are so many women in the world. You can do better then a feminist. If I would be red pilling the shit out of a woman, why would I date a hypocrite? Someone crazy and prone to divorce, and victimhood?

When I am better able to construct better arguments in a more concise way, I would like to do a FDR Call in show. I have many of my own hypocritical and contradicting thoughts so, I would like to better organize my thinking before taking that plunge. Stefan is 50 I believe so, someone much younger, half his junior would have had contradictions in thinking the way he had at a younger age. No doubt, I acknowledge his genius and want to hear his philosophy. I believe this bias comes from him having a daughter. The data he speaks of shows a high risk for divorce once the gap is large so lets say, a decade or more. I would have to seek out the actual data. Still, divorce is terrible and its women that promote 1) Marriage after SMV craters or nearly has 2) Divorce with some fallacious argument, female logic, and the essence of which being discontentment. Its not something I can fix or adjust. Now, If we were to look at the data, Stefan put together a Truth on Sex vid, and it showed the fallout for promiscuity. Crater SMV clings to monogamy, to being lonely, and it is very alarming for me. I am getting older and I am faced with single mother victimhood or crusty women that spent their days running through bad boys. Society promotes this social conditioning to 1) Don't judge her for Sloot gonna sloot 2) celebrate Single moms. No man would willingly choose this without lower IQ, society normalizing the behavior, and betas/cucks/white knights etc. and so, 'Provider Male' is left to clean up the mess that women have made. Women being gatekeeper of sex. Another poster stated, he wants 3-4 kids, wants to date someone 18-21, and that if they travel the world for the next 4-5years, by the time they finish having kids, she will be 33. At this point, there is little to no way a woman much older can be on this life path for this man. As for marriage, I am a bit cynical about more recently with the info Stefan has brought forth, my own dating experiences, and the fact that, women seem to seek it usually once the bad boys stop coming. That the puss is for those guys when she is thin and betas get the scraps after her youth is torched. So, if I am 28 and I date someone 18, by the time I am 35, she is 25. WTF is wrong with this? No, this is not what I wanted nor what I planned for but, through cold approach, I have seen no alternative outside a MGTOW life path. I see no alternative even with Stefan saying that the government welfare state will fail and women will need men again. FUCK NOT GIVEN. I don't care when women need men again so, she will change her tune. While I am in the trenches deflecting grendades and walking around landmines, she is getting screwed and running through the parade of attention/free dinners/sex/male validation but, when it fails, we're suppose to jump on that bomb? My genes will go with me if I don't meet a good genuine woman. I think youth is the key for me.

You've stared a lot of what you feel doesn't work but, you offer nothing with respect into the sight as to a solution. How do you meet women? I approach a to of women everywhere I go. I make small talk and I take a number presuming any sort of connection or chemistry. It doesn't guarantee success but, it definitely isn't being a beta/cuck waiting for a woman to fall into my lap. The alternative is waiting. Stefan is against this which he voiced many times in his podcast. Then again, he has argued to wait for the state to fail, for the welfare state/the single mom state to crumble, and for women to need men again. Fuck that. That may or may not happen. I am not allocating my resources to a charity case of women that during SMV cratered it with bad boys and now, its time for white picket fence and baby rabies. No thanks. The alternative solution is as someone else had suggested; dating younger, SMV top form, and building a life here. Again, Stefan called it "creepy" if I am not mistaken. This is not an argument. Alternative to dating younger is dating cratered SMV or single moms which is stupid. Why do that? @ Mods - why was my previous post hidden? I don't think I broke any rules. The post is show now but, it was purple and hidden beforehand.

I am a huge fan of FDR and Stefan. I do think marriage is ideally the route to go especially for children and a better thriving society. GIVEN the entitlement of women, the 'sloot gonna sloot' pandemic of women during SMV, the fallout of baby rabies when the bad boys stop coming around, and some cuck/beta is suppose to raise her babies is just solve everything is a losing feat. Again, I disagree with Stefan here on the push for marriage UNTIL REFORM. Furthermore, I disagree with Stefan with respect to PUA/PICKUP. Sitting back and waiting for a woman to pick me is not a solution nor is waiting for daddy government/welfare state to fail and women to need men again is not an argument. Its also not an argument to deem dating younger as "creepy." I could give a damn what anybody thinks. I will choose youth and build that LTR with a good woman over baby rabies after SMV cratered. Yes, NAWALTs like Lauren Southern or ROAMING Millennial exist but again, so few and far between. It leaves a significant portion of men behind the eight ball. My fucking genes want to spread. Still, as a buddy pointed out to me; for me to procreate; I AM MAKING A FUCKING COPY OF ANOTHER PERSON. If this woman is a fucking disaster, half of that I don't want mixing with me my genes. I am very conservative and have been that way but, I crave sex and female attention yet, I know how dangerous it can be. The solution I found is YOUTH. Women during SMV, 18-23, unless she is willing to be in a LTR, travel, build a solid foundation with me, THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS OR TALK ABOUT. Women more my own age have kids from different men, have spend their SMV running through dudes, and posting blogs about feminism. I am very hopeful that Stefan can provide me a solution; a route and in the meantime, I intend to practice self knowledge; awareness, and free thinking. I want to explore my consciousness but, I am well aware, things are not orderly, it can get chaotic, and I wont be party to this madness. No thanks. Good luck mate.

To answer the question that TS made; you got pickup which is essentially mass approaching women; boarder line spamming tons of women interest. MGTOW is pretty much cutting off yourself from women as a utility, avoiding marriage/LTR live in girlfriends, and mostly, casual hookups at best. What is in between this is RooshV/Neo-Masculinity. Basically, its tidbits of both worlds, combining the tenants of pickup and MGTOW; maximizing your SMV, resources, getting pussy, and yet, avoiding being a utility as well through state marriage and being roped into monogamy. I am sort of a purple pill(er). I have not sworn off marriage. I seek it but, my blasted genes will get me into trouble. Options that pursue me are usually not the most ideal; women with shitty aesthetics or party girls, young girls, college girls, single moms, baby rabies, etc. Needless to say, I tread lightly, I don't ever raw dog warrior, and I am very particular about my activity. I fear being cucked so, I am very specific about my expectations of what is and isn't acceptable. I still try my best to just go with the flow and then, be specific about anything I am not pleased with or think is unacceptable.

If a woman is shady or sly, you avoid like the plague. There is anal and blowies for release. You don't trade your dna with women in this day and age as you don't know what can or will happen later on. A voice message of Rich Piana surfaced where, he said some fucked up racial shit about a decade ago or so *which isn't to dismiss or downplay racism* but, it was a scorned woman again, seeking to hurt him financially. This is the west and women are very fickle, power hungry, and cunning a lot of the times. Rich was foolish for letting a woman set him off to the point of rage whereby, you say something racial or fucked up in general. I've learned to just cut a woman off completely and move on. A girl I met through approach gave her number to me. Technically, she gave it to a mutual friend after I charmed her. So, we made plans for drinks. She bought and I picked her up. She invited me over the next time for a movie. I got to her house and all the doors were closed. It was kind of spooky. I end up in her room and there is no TV in the room so, clearly, we aren't watching a movie lol One sec, we are talking, lying on her bed, the next we are rolling around, undressed, and fooling around. She sucked my dick. I never had sex though. We only fooled around and she went down on me. I did not do the same for her. A week or so goes by and something of a pic or a vid surfaces of her and another man. She was not my gf or wife. She was some skank I hooked up with and while I was angered, I cut off all contact, and did not talk to her again. I think more guys need a spine and need to see trouble that a significant portion could be. When I saw her again, she looked good but, I never bothered nor cared to pursue or spend any time with her. She made her bed and needs to lie in it.

I came from a shitty situation where I lost family (dad/sis) in a tragic accident which really fucked me up for sometime. I've been negative and cynical of gov edu but, there is still good content out there but, you must 1) pick something professional (doctor/lawyer/trades/dentist etc) with a end game in mind here 2) Have a general idea of that market as well as the needs there 3) learn about that field firsthand before forking out the resources for edu to begin with 4) unless you have resources for post secondary edu pertaining to a profession; DON'T BOTHER (you cannot declare bankruptcy on a student loan in America). A wife costs money as do children. Many a times or so has been my experience; a lot of women are liberal, are very sexually promiscuous, have children out of wedlock, and lunatic-like student loans in absurd career paths like social science/liberal arts/women's studies. You are then tired to this madness that is a liberal woman or worse, feminist. Search tinder or pof in your area; bios read "Proud single mom." This is what awaits you and my friend, it only gets worse with age (particularly women more your own age with baggage). A reason why, I would date women more your age then mine lol Look into that Authoring Suite if you are lost. I am sure it could help you work things out. It sucks that the future suite was offered free last Xmas and I missed it. Its worth its price and then some IMHO. The reviews are great for it. It helps you organize your thoughts and plan for a better future. You write things out based upon different points in your life, you make sense with it, and reverse engineer a strategy to have the sort of dream life you want. This is a highly educated man and a piece of edu worthy of doing. Like you, I am still figuring it out, and I know, being self employed will bring other difficulties for me too that I have not planned for. Look at being a 10% entrepreneur. You don't have to cannon ball in. You can have a day job and start a venture on the side. If that takes off, you can scale up, and limit your time with your day job. Just refrain from liberal arts or a major in social science. Do something practical like business/financing/accounting etc. A buddy of mine is a tradesman. He studied accounting. He knew very early he wont work for someone long term and has his own company. He went on a world tour. His guys were hitting the pavement.

We've classed before or better said, we've agreed to disagree. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I completely agree. This is the fault of MGTOW IMHO. Checking out of dating/LTRs/Marriage etc. is like the little boy who cannot compete so, he takes his ball and goes home. WTF? I question the level of testosterone any man who wont compete. I am not being a dick as I do see that MGTOW is correct in many ways about family court, divorce, and the dogs of the state extracting their resources for female victimhood. I saw a study (I will link it if I can find it) whereby, the beta chimps were shown to have poor health, higher stress hormones, CAD, and at high risk for a variety of health issues. There is certain hardwire programming that women have intuitively to choose the alpha; the male that won the genetic lottery be it through aesthetics/looks/resources or other. I am glad you've given your own thoughts on the topic as anybody can plagiarize someone else and play off the theory as their own (not to imply you did this). I recently watched Good Will Hunting. That sort of scene where the dude did that in the bar to try and posture plus impress some girls is disgusting. I've heard there is no original idea. That we all take ideas from other sources. I concur with this finding. I like your perspective and where you went with the dominance hierarchy. I have listened to quite a few Jordan Peterson vids on the discussion. The problem I am seeing is that, there is literally ZERO fallout for 'sloot gonna sloot' and single moms; hell, society actually promotes the following, and women are cheered off the cliff. The same feminism that preaches about equality is the one chanting women wont jump. So, some cuck/beta/white knight will pander and supplicate to a sloot or single mom. Will raise his babies and foot her bills. Again, their is absolutely no fallout until of course, SMV craters, the dating pool dries up, and then, its victimhood time. Are you or were you a MGTOW? I was recently asked by this before from a business associate. I am single. I rarely enter into LTRs. I refuse to have a gf that lives with me. I see a lot of disgusting female behavior and there is this victimhood argument when calling out gross behavior like; cucking men; crater SMV then turn on the good girl act; look at the women that divorced Rich Piana (racist rant not withstanding) or Kali Muscle? With respect to not caring about women, if America went the way Germany was headed; 1200 women sexually harassed/abused; many under age girls gang banged by pieces of shit all brought in by feminism/idiotic politicians; if it was women in America that brought this into being, FUCK NOT GIVEN. Outside my mom, cousins, friends, I AM SWITCHED OUT. I dated this girl who makes over six figures. No shocker here, she is a feminist, has the illogical "don't need a man" rhetoric which got played out pretty damn quick. Needless to say, she cratered her SMV, trashed her 20s, and ended up blowing up my phone drunk dial style. The thing is, I was getting texts from girls 18/19/20/21 so, needless to say, the younger option always for me has been the better one. I rather young over baby rabies. I rather youth over playboy stopped calling and she just jumped off some dude's dick who wont return her call (as was the case here). The best part was, I told JTO about the situation; he warned me what would happen, of female nature especially like a pea brain like her. So, I've made a decision. I want a wife and two children. I will approach until my life comes to an end as this is something I want but, more importantly, I have a passion that I am really following. I am looking to create something of freedom for myself. I am not saying, being the richest stiff in the graveyard. I am saying, a platform whereby, I can make money anywhere in the world, and not be tied to the corporate world. In chasing this dream, in doing mastermind groups, seeing difference conferences, I am finding myself in a different environment, and people who are exploring their consciousness while living at their edge. I've met some better women along the way. It is my hope that, before my dream is reached, I will have met an awesome woman I can share my life with, and bringing her along. Lastly, I feel a solution is necessary or I am just spinning the wheels and being resistant to what is. The solution I have come up with is to date younger. I know this goes in polar contrast to Stefan's advice. Also, approaching tons of women everywhere (gym, bar, club, starbucks, grocery store, Whole Foods, street, etc). Small talk >>> rapport building >>>> Real convo about me/my life/passion >>>> number >>>> date >>>> sex >>>repeat until end game is reached. I tried waiting, I tried social circle, I have tried online, pof/okc/tinder, pickup, etc. There is an abundance of train wrecks, of women seeking meal tickets, trashing her SMV as is her right but, then, seeking to play homemaker after best days are done. My man, I am not playing that game and I will go out on my fucking shield. I will approach, I will handle shit tests, rejections, and flakes if it means at the end game, I meet a woman I can create a life together with; children, travel, a dog, white picket fence. I don't want to be a pua. I don't use magic or fake mustaches. I just talk to strangers everywhere and I have blind faith in the universe providing. Its lead to more dating and sex but, a lot of very liberal women and a lot of women I am better off without. Would love to hear your solution or approach to the end game you seek? I am just doing my best to enjoy the journey.

Thanks you for your response and time. Its a busy world and I appreciate the time. I hope to one day formulate my thoughts in a concise manner and call into FRD. My only concern is anonymity, my workplace with some of my conservative views, my thoughts on 'sloot gonna sloot' and single moms. I think this is a great way to get fired or hurt your business/brand. I watched the show HIMYM. The player on the show (keep in mind, it is mainstream, and therefore, you must dismiss what is suggested for pickup/dating/LTRs as its not conducive with reality) says, "the only reason a man should wait is for her 18th birthday." I agree. There is no politically correct way in saying, when I was in high school, many girls my age at the time peaked by their 16th birthday, and plummeted or cratered with respect to SMV. I was 18 and I hooked up with this girl 16 (legal consent in my State here). Today, she is a mess, fat, highly obese numbing herself with 24/case of beer, and has multiple kids from different men. Its shameful. You organized your thoughts quite well. Are you familiar with Jordan Peterson? I want to look into his Authoring Suite. I think it would a great tool for a lot of young men. I want to review my past, present, and future to better progress towards my dreams. I am from the nuclear family, mom and dad married for nearly 40years (father/sis passed away in a fatal accident; been cooping with PTSD for sometime). Even if a woman gets close enough and learns of this dark past I've endured, they don't give a fuck, are not understanding, and I am bombarded with female logic; "only has guy friends," convos like "there was this guy friend." Trips or vacas with "friends" which translates to guy friend who again, will take her best years in SMV. Wont commit or buy the ring and or give her children but, you or I are expected to raise her babies and be her ATM until divorced or cucked. Not my resentment here because I was in the fucking dark most of my life until pickup/PUA; until I approached ludicrous amounts of women. Its like in the Wizard of Oz and seeing the little man behind the curtain. There is no going back as I have seen a good portion of female nature and I couldn't be closer to MGTOW then I am now. I just want a family; a wife, two children and I could careless of boy or girl. Just healthy I am working through my own contradictions and I was hopeful to meet more like-minded men; on their path in life like David Deida Way of the Superior man, into leave their mark on the world, living their dream and at their edge. I am seeking a solution and for the life of me, for all the pickup, for all the hard work in my careers, all the dating or insight I have had, it has left me cynical. I see the traps and sadly, I feel like Cyther from Matrix sometimes where, I wish I could be blind to the realities that men are in today. The corporate world looks down upon a man like myself that is 1) single 2) not married 3) not kids whereas, if I were married, I would be in a position they can control me. Lets be honest. There are girls 18-21 that have more sexual experience then you and I combined; maybe more then everyone on this forum lol I do believe a woman's youth is the key. This is where I disagree with Stefan about "its creepy." I think he is biased with having a daughter. I know women more my age who cratered their SMV. Its now white picket fence and good girl gimmick time to rope in some betas and cucks. I think women are steered by social engineering the way more men are becoming steered by MGTOW. Its like, I can stake half my net worth (not to imply I am wealthy by any stretch as I take care of my mom since my sis/dad died but, I am a home owner) and resources on a woman after years of being some dude's booty call. If I shared pics of how I looked, my aesthetics, and lean muscle, you would expect that my experiences would be better. The dating pool is landmines and grenades. Well, if you met a rocket of a 18year old, what do you do? I can see myself hooking up but, I am doubtful that there is much of a future. Even with early 20s. The last girl I went out with was 23. Before that, there was a girl 21/22. Before that, a girl was 26 and another that was 28 and another 29. It is crazy because you and I can come across to women years our senior who act like they are a pre teen/high schooler in heat. I've watched as women crater SMV chasing 1) rich as fuck pretty boy 2) Bad boys 3) rich dudes with resources at the tail end of SMV It doesn't end well needless to say. I ran into a girl I was dating a few years back. She is present day single white mom. I don't hate her or wish anything ill on her or her child but, I seen it coming. I was precognitive in knowing the end game and without hesitation, I let it go for good, and never looked back. It does suck man because I've been disillusioned. Nobody told me the world is this way so, I sort of feel lost at times with it. Also, losing my father, I don't have someone to shoot the shit with outside a few good friends. Even then, many are very liberal, are party to this cuck-central mentality about raising some man's children, and pity party about a woman's biological clock. Look, she doesn't care in my teens that I am alone fapping to porn the same way her needing a baby now when players stop calling is no concern to me. None. My post reeks of ambivalence. I would love to call into Stefan and I intend to once I can better organize my thoughts in a more direct way as once it goes out into cyber space via phone call + youtube, I am pretty much their for the takings.

I agree with what you are saying. The question is; how do you win this game? You either win the genetic lottery or you stake claim in the free market and win. Women want both. I know a doctor that won this game but, his wife is taking him to the cleaners so, he is now officially losing the game now. Dating down seems to be a stupid strategy because the women still are initiating divorces and taking resources. The divorce stats are staggering and even more so is the divorce stats initiated by women. It seems like a fools game at this point IMO. I watched RM & Stefan video recently. I agree with the emphasis on marriage, the value there, children, and what two can create together. Then again, I see the fallout and risk as beyond stupidity at this point. Online dating be it pof/tinder/okc or IRL is full of women cratering SMV in youth and fallback plan is white picket fence and baby rabies. How any man can fall for this game is beyond pathetic. The only solution I can think of is choosing younger and marrying the woman who dedicates her youth to the LTR otherwise, it is not something I deem as a intelligent investment.

Seems like a better route and likely would have been a better route then my college education given my experience In the school system.

I was hoping to find a solution to this 'pump and dump' cuck fest in the dating pool. Its run through bad boys in youth and when SMV craters, its good girl act, and baby rabies. I've dated high income women. Not a lot. Still, there is quite a bit of red flags like, what someone thinks is acceptable is beyond me. "Only have guy friends." Clearly, a red flag and not something I am playing with or taking seriously. I am not talking about teens or early 20s. I am talking about, fully grown women that should be thinking about LTRs and or marriage. Of course not. So, you fast forward years down the road, and in comes the drunk dials. Sure enough, said women just jumped off some dude's dick and well, its okay right because some cuck will be there to listen to her problems with the faintest hope of sex. I think in both our circumstances, we are responsible for who we date, and the choices we make. Men don't get the freebies of sympathy, pity party or government handouts. So, dating someone that is liberal, that has spent her youth jumping off dicks, and working at a dunken donut shop likely isn't the best candidate for you. In my situation, I tried my best, and found a woman who was 1) making a really good income and 2) attractive. Of course, in both circumstances, these are going to be few and far between. A woman with a decent income, fairly attractive or cute, and not a sloot is a keeper but again, with tinder/okc/pof, I am really reaching here. Its dawned upon me that youth seems to be the key for any man seeking a LTR. I am well aware that, at a certain point, too young lets say 18-21, in all probability, she is immature, and lacking in common interests. I don't know what the kids listen to now a days. Needless to say, I would rather a woman with a age gap, dedicated to our LTR in youth, then a woman more my age that been a jump off during her peak SMV. I've heard married men argue, its their biological clock. Quite honestly, I could give a fuck if this is a selling point now that, this matters, and lets say, a bunch of suitors were willing. Just chasing outside one's league is just the norm but, the over promo of single moms and not judging sluts these days is just maddening.

If I met a woman with incredible amount of visa or student loan debt especially in majors like Social Science/Liberal Arts/Women studies, I am running for dear cover. I am terrified of debt. It is a huge deal and with the increase in outsourcing, and the lack of good jobs as well as job security, yeah, it is a nightmare.

Throw enough shit at the wall and see what sticks. I found an absurd amount of books/programs/content online or in the library. I am working on staking my claim in the free market but, it is very scary and its not what I was taught. I was taught to get a good job and education. Now a days, good jobs are few and far between. Education is a joke especially formal gov edu. What are you passionate about and what could you monopolize? I am looking at several business ventures. Ideally, self employed and working casually as a employee in the long run. I want real estate, I want property, land, and businesses. My business venture is aimed at being self employed. Generating leads and prospects. Its all very scary and exciting but, I don't need to quit my day job. I just need to out earn that so, I cane pull away from it long time. My advice (take it for what its worth), get into the lane you know, are passionate about, and don't look back. Got that from Gary Vee. As for jobs, I am only taking one work whereby, its something I can 1) further strengthen the skills I already have 2) acquire even more skills 3) build a foundations/platform where, I know that business, and can venture on my own. I am learning SMM and SEO. Look into mastermind groups in your city. If you got friends into poker/ecom/SMM/SEO/ you can learn quite a bit.

Forgive my being blunt; pussy doesn't date down. PERIOD. If a woman is 100k a year, rest assure, she is chasing the playboy hockey player or baller. Its been the case or so what I've seen. What ends up happening is that, she is used through her 20s, and disregarded when seeking a baby. At that stage, some cuck or beta is suppose to jump on that pulled pin. I sure as fuck wont do it. JTO warned me about dating wealthier women. She was hot and cold. I ended up dating someone else a bit younger. Sure enough, years later, she started to blow up my phone again. I did not even bother since, our time together had come and past. Sure enough, she got finished by some dude, and she needed to feel better about herself. The truth is that, we were always on different time lines and trains of thought. When I wanted a LTR, she wanted to party, and when she wanted to date, I wanted younger. Women at their SMV top form date up until they cannot any longer.

I think both Stefan and Roaming Millennial is correct about marriage and the disgusting ideology of third wave feminism. Unfortunately, I am ambivalent with respect to marriage given the facts. A divorce rate over 50% and worse, 80% are initiated by women. So, as ridiculous as this stat is not to mention the fallout for men if things don't workout, a good portion of the female population is sleeping around, is cratering her SMV (sexual market value) whereby, her prime is used with the alphas and when they no longer want her anymore, the betas are suppose to come clean up the mess. There is virtually ZERO fallout as a woman has cucks/betas/white knights to supplicate to her. She can fallback on the welfare state and daddy government. Until this situation is handled, I don't see value in marriage, and setting up camp with a woman who at her best was some guy's booty call throughout her youth. I signed up here because, I see a problem, I recognize the genius in Stefan's philosophy and wisdom. I see marriage as a valuable asset. I am the product of the nuclear family. I always thought it was the way but, I've been in the dating market, I've see what a mess it is, how gross, and disgusting things are. While I am not a MGTOW, I absolutely get it, and I am torn. I am ambivalent in that, I see the value of marriage, in creating a life together with a woman, and creating something truly incredible. I am just torn by the abundance of single moms, of sloot gonna sloot, the promo for all of this madness, the one way flow education system that indoctrinates women with chasing careers, backburner marriage or LTRs, and then, when desperate, lower standards or have a baby as salvation. For starters, I am happy that Stefan is back in this direct, on philosophy about marriage, male/female dynamics, and the value of children. I've gone out on my shield, I've met, approached, dated lots of girls. What people think is and isn't acceptable is absolute lunacy. This was a great video but, I am hoping to come across a solution given the current climate of the dating pool. I realize that, a lot of the social engineering used in society is to mitigate plummeting SMV. These are not even conversations you can have without people getting offended. Not shocking, a woman who is conservative, attractive, and pro nuclear family. Just so few and far between now a days. Solutions? Thoughts? Routes of approach? I think youth is the key. Youth as in, dating younger, and red pilling the shit out of her before she is corrupted by the madness in our society.

I get what you are saying but, if yo say something about gross female behavior, about single moms, about victim culture, about the wage myth, you literally put yourself between the cross hairs. I am all for firing away but, better left said and done when 1) I got millions 2) they can't come at me. I respect Stefan for his truth. I can speak my truth but, red pill or MGTOW, politics, etc. have no place in the workplace. Yeah. There is some niche hobbies I intend to explore with this sort of thing. At the very least, I have it but, I don't want to be a meme so, I rather put it out discreetly without being a character. Thanks man. A buddy and I are putting together podcast but, we want to do so in a uncanned way yet, not the sort of podcast or platform that Stefan has. For instance, something I say can easily be taken out of context, made into a meme, and made to ruin me in the workplace or business. In either event, I believe you have to bring your truth or you fence sit. I think I want to do it like the early JRE podcast rather then me as a live feed.

Very much so. I know Stefan has hated on it but, I learned about pickup and hypergamy. I've explored self knowledge and made changes by throwing myself into the fire. In doing so, I dated more, I made more friends, and my life changed for the better. Its still a work in progress. I just know I cannot do it myself so, even as a entrepreneur/ceo you need to outsource or job share. You need to reach out.

If I am Joe Rogan or say, I am a local celebrity and or someone that is self employed and thriving, I can put out red pill uncanned content. When you are a employee, you can be axed, can be black balled, and just blatantly screwed over. I've had this happen in the school and workplace before. I am seen as "the snake" similar to the analogy Jordan Peterson gives of the story of the Garden of Eden. Its a defense mechanism for being disassociated from "the other." I was made to feel like "the other" by profs or people in the workplace as a teen or growing up. In school I received a email with very vague directions. Of course, I was thrown to the fire, given practically no time to prepare anything given the task at hand, and of course, on the weekend. No consideration for a work schedule or anything given it was last minute and I had the least amount of time. I thrived in the pressure situation. The feminist prof of course belittled and berated what I did despite completing everything she did. Also, with my career path and direction, she deemed it "cookie cutter." As if I was taking an easy route. Gross and disgusting woman. I cannot imagine her having a man in her life. What man would want to be around that?

The women only point stands out. I watched as multiple internships were passed me by to women with not even a fraction of my GPA. Multiple internships were gifted and when questioned, I was matched with female logic. I found the administration abysmal. Failure to process paperwork. No recourse. The week before internships were started, someone had not sent out emails, confirmation, and did their job. It was so amateur hour. Still, the job market requests such and such designation/degree/diploma/other. Of course, if you have political ties or family name that means a damn, you leap frog the pecking order. I am beyond frustrated and the favoritism towards the girls is beyond ridiculous at this point. The ratio is 4:1 women to men in school. Men have been falling behind in the school system for over 50yrs. The data is showing this as in the book "Men on Strike." If this was women, there would be course correction but, of course, its men and fuck is not given. I am also curious as to how accurate the data is on male gpa. IMHO I watched as marks were taken off me and full marks given to women for the same thing. Of course, it was called a "error" yet, it was a common theme. I lose a full mark. A girl is graded partial marks at the very least. Trump puts it best in saying, "they can't compete."

I spent most of my life single. I never had a gf. I was liked by girls. It always seemed like fate. I gave a similar perspective of a favorite character I had as a boy. He trained to be the strongest warrior ever but, due to the powers to be, the creators, and a strong dislike for him therefore, he was always the GOAT Silver medalist. Runner up. A strong #2. If he somehow managed to be #1, it was always short lived and he would be sent to the back of the line in no time. This was a all too strange and familiar feeling for me. I still take walks alone or I go from a run. I like to exercise now more then ever. I appreciate being alone but, I also escape self and reconnect with others. In doing so, my social circle expanded and so did my dating experiences.

There is nothing wrong with that. I already do something similar in the workplace whereby, I am friendly yet at a distance. I am there to get paid to do a job and go home. Nothing more. Interesting. Most sales people I know are usually really social. I suppose there are the exceptions. Just meant, I think you are informed with MRAs and MGTOWs. I am grateful for Molyneux's content. Prior to, I was a lot more beta, and sympathetic of the "poor single mom." His content drew my attention to self ownership and away from victimhood which seems to a get out of jail free card women use. Also, bringing my attention to SMV (sexual market value) and in doing so, I always question a woman's motives. If she is outside that point in life, I am simply just not interested, and view a woman as a predator otherwise. With social media, there is so many ways to reach out to people, and reconnect. "I've had a crush on you for years" is a favorite line I like to use with women from my past when reconnecting. #$ Interesting. Well, good luck mate. I don't know any women waiting these days. I suppose there are some somewhere. Many are just trashing their SMV. Fallback is beta male provider. Before Stefan, I would have fell in that category. Since learning about pickup, since dating more, and exploring self knowledge, I would rather my genes are weeded out of existence then being a utility to extract resources. With that said, I will settle down with a woman likely much younger in SMV or not at all. I feel the same way about "racing against the clock." Sadly, I think I am older then you so, I really feel behind the eight ball. As I suspected, you are much much younger. You got time man. I wouldn't worry about it. I think youth is the key. You can red pill her. You can actually educate her and see the errors of the way. The highlight reel promo for single moms and being a slut. Don't judge her. Demonize men. This seems to be a common theme as is male disposability. Its ideal you learn from Stefan and other free thinkers. Use critical thinking and think for yourself. No matter who, I think there is always a element of personal self interest so, I never follow blindly. Stefan and I disagree on the topic of pickup lol I know he presumes it to be dishonest and whatnot. I on the other hand don't see an alternative to having selection and choice. Waiting for government to fail and women needing men again is not a solution nor an argument.

I am a bit frustrated and I could use a bit of advice guys. I went to school to increase my marketability in the job market. Needless to say, it was a bit of a nightmare. For starters, the took my money no problem for my application to begin with and then, they failed to process my paper work. I was waitlisted. Of course, I did my due diligence, and I got the run around. When I followed up, it was uncovered, the women paper pushers of government education failed to do their damn job, and because of their incompetency, I was suppose to wait out for a spot to open up. Of course, I use logic, evidence, and reasoning. There wasn't any budging or even looking into fixing the matter that they screwed up on. I ended up going over their head and contacting the Dean of the school. I had to make an appointment, meet with the Dean, and it was resolved. Talk about fuckery. I felt this weird passive aggressive demeanor from my profs. It was bully like tactic but, it would be ever so slightly. I thought I was being paranoid as I would like to think the best of educators. Then, it was out in the open. I had issues with profs messing with my grades, taking off marks on assignments or tests when a female student would get a full mark or a half mark. On mine, it was just taken off. I had one real issue where, I had to report, meet with, and follow up on because of blatant fouls I was receiving unjustly. Still, I finished with honors despite working a full-time job as well. In short, the GPA was a determining factor for internships, and job opportunities. Despite having the higher GPA, I was by passed by many of my female classmates. This was just a common practice throughout the program regardless of the superior GPA. Of course, the prospect for employment was offered to the better internship opportunities that I was bypass for. The prospects for employment were terrible. Worse, many of my profs had connections in the field. It has not made it easy for me needless to say. Its dawned on me that, I don't want to be an employee forever, and that, I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to stake my claim in the free market. I've began reading tons of books at my library and doing tons of programs from real estate, marketing, and a variety of others. I was contemplating doing a post graduate studies but, my experience with the education system, profs, and administration has been god awful. Granted, there were some really great profs, and the Dean was awesome as well. Still, I am beyond frustrated with this feeling of ambiguity I am having now. I want to stake my claim in the free market but, I don't know where to begin. My father died. I buried him a few years ago. God, I wish he was around so I could discuss so many things with him. It sucks. But this is life. I feel like he could have helped me navigate better with the education system and even with my endeavors for entrepreneurship because he had more experience there. Anyway, I feel like I am between a rock and a hard place. I was considering starting a trade but, to begin an apprenticeship when my 20s are nearing their end is not exciting. Learning a trade would convert well to my own business. There is always learning more through graduate studies but, the education bubble is breaking and it wasn't all that productive the first time around. My father always taught me that, if I was ever out of work, my new job was finding work. Fortunately, I have a job. I just want to create better options and opportunities for myself. I feel like without a graduate studies or MBA, my options are limited going forward. I wish I had learned IT and or comp sci. I feel like I could do a lot more there and be efficient in creating something else on my own. I would like to find more prospective opportunities for myself and I think entrepreneurship is my end game. I would like to enter the workforce in a career that I could further strengthen the talents I already have and acquire skillsets that will be useful in my own endeavors as a entrepreneur. Unfortunately, many require a MBA and this is a political landscape that is out there. I notice more and more that a lot of job postings are listed as technicalities whereas, the candidate chosen was picked long before the opportunity was present. Furthermore, unless you have ties with family/political/other, you are sort of up a creek without a paddle. I already have many reason not to do more school but, I feel like my options are limited otherwise. I've had shitty experience in the current government education guys. Only a fool would put himself back in the fire after being burned once already. I am at a loss. The market is terrible atm so, I am even looking at diversifying my skillsets to really open up opportunities. I am just at a loss atm. I don't want to be an employee forever.

Thanks so much Dylan. I was about to post a topic and I still will pertaining to the education system disaster. Like you, I am learning real estate, marketing programs, entrepreneurship, and a variety of others. I am still struggling to put a business plan in motion but, I know being an employee is not the end game for me. I got fucked around in the education system. It pedals and it supplicate to the girls. The majority of the admission offers are women paper pushers. Many failed to process my application that I spent hundreds of dollars on. They took my money and failed to process my stuff placing me on a waitlist. I had to fight with them and get the run around before going over their head to the Dean of the Uni to get my place. These sloths should be fired for incompetency. In the programs, the opportunities were always provided to women with better practicums, and job opportunities. At first, I thought I was being judgmental, and paranoid but, I watched it time and time again. I even had issues with profs messing with my marks and assignments. It was pretty fucked up stuff and even as a grown adult, they treat you like a kid, and take no responsibilities for their mistakes. If a student is late, he fails but, if a prof fails to mark something on time, its always an excuse. If the internship officer went on a bender and did not process applications for students days before they are to start, she needs a pity party. Despite finishing with honors, I was by passed by better internship opportunities, despite the grading system that was a prerequisite. It was sexist to the max. I've never seen anything like it. It was wrong. So, I finish with fucking HONORs with a full time job, and I matched with very few to no job prospects. The option is more education or to start a business which, the latter sounds like a great option. Its just not something I am aware of or something my mind has focused on in this shitty education system I came through. I have few prospective options atm. Again, I got a lot of problems at the school and many have connections in the field. I feel like this has definitely hurt me and I even tried to play nice until the fuckery reached a whole other level. Dylan, I am beyond frustrated with the education system the job market, and the lack of opportunity available especially to young men in this stupid system. Aspiring entrepreneur. Any motivation/inspiration/advice is welcome. Your post comes at a good time before I do something foolish like go back to school for post grade or a masters.

I am interested in a podcast but, not like Stefan's. I want to talk on something other then immigration and politics. I want to discuss foreign topics that are frowned upon and far from social conditioning. Dating/sex/LTRs/marriage/social engineering/education/other My concern is that, these get heated, are far from politically correct, and I know how the workplace is with that sort of stuff so, I am thinking of doing it in a anonymous way with some buddies.