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It comes with a shock to really see the little man behind the curtain. I spent a good portion of my dating life on the outside. I was liked by a girl here or there but, few and far between. It would be a social circle or school. It would be some scenario of a warm approach and all the stars aligning. Insert pua and a whole new world sort of became aware to me. I began to see something entirely. Some men are fortunate to "get it" or win the genetic lottery. Most are somewhere in between or just average. I went from a few dates a year to pickup. To getting numbers and hooking up. This isn't to say, its some magic pill and I wall run like the Matrix. I am saying, an outrageous amount of time, effort, and energy equates to a more active sex life. That is all. I've then watched as a woman will beta cuck a guy, will sleep with me, and dangle the carrot as if the beta had any chance. It pisses me off to see because I was that beta at one time. The difference is now, I don't get friend zoned because I don't spend the sort of time around a woman that isn't dating me EVER. Much to my own pride and dismay, it was resorting to pickup to see the little man behind the curtain, to see the lies in society, in "she's not like that." The meaning to this sentiment is, "NOT LIKE THAT WITH YOU!" PERIOD! Stefan is much more eloquent in his words then I ever will be. I would love to call in one day when I can organize my thoughts and argue this point better then I am capable at this time. I never wore wigs or did magic. I never did routines or tricks. I approach and talk to lots of women all the time. Small talk and then eventually, actual conversation, and rapport building. Once there is a hook-point, there is something of chemistry and a connection, numbers are exchanged, dated are made, and sex is had. Granted, it is not always a linear process. Women flake. Some women are crazy. Some have boyfriends and are seeking other options. I can tell a woman, I just want to have sex, and see how that goes or I can be smart, and let her bring it up. As I matured, more and more women will pursue me or suggest sex. The text is always blacktops espionage style "want to hangout" or "want to get drinks?" or my favorite, "want to watch a movie?" Stefan's point on sexual market value is never lost upon me so, the trade and exchange of a woman during the very years she could be locking down a good man is more times then not, pissed away as a booty call in the name of chasing bad boys. In my teens and early 20s, it really ate away and at the core of me. As I learned about pickup, I stopped giving a fuck. As I got older, as I had more sexual experiences, and dated a lot more, I saw abundance. I realized there was more and more women out there and that, my time will come. I just had to have blind faith in myself. As I got older, I watched as women I would have once loved to date had children out of wedlock with the bad boy, got fat, had other kids from different men. I watched what a disaster I had avoided. Meanwhile, I dated other girls younger then me. Every dog has his days.

I don't think it is a sustainable lifestyle for most men. Most men are easily the biggest saps who will cave the sec they get pussy bombed. I recently went to a Jack & Jill. Still single. I assumed, there must be some single people. NOPE! It was my first experience of social anxiety in a long time. Here is how a covo went: Couple: so you married? Me: No Couple: Gf? Me: Nope. Dating but, nothing serious. Couple: Awwwww. Maybe one day. Me: GRRRRRRRRR! Because, the merit to which a person is successful is of course following the beaten path, to get married, and have children. I wouldn't be as big a cynic if the majority of times it was what people always desired. In my experience, it has more to do with a woman's biological clock, and a man being dragged for the ride until she tells him to get out lol

True but, one relies on government resources, victimhood, and stealing away a man's children (assuming they are his and he did not get cucked) as well as unleashing the dogs of the state to steal his money.

TS, I don't think you hate people. I think you just hate stupidity like me. I see a lot of it. I've witnessed it in the school system and the workplace. It makes you want to get the hell away from idiocy but, cash is king and you are forced to be part of the tribe or you starve. Times have changed but, we still are very much so tribal. If you enjoy spending time alone, nobody will stop you. I agree with your analysis of MRAs or MGTOWs. Then again, women need enormous amount of resources, and men want sex. It predates our being hunter gatherers. As for no friends or texts, its a two way streak. I am very close to friends and family but, it takes a shit ton of work. I value that. I am also very much so single so, when I am out, I approach and talk to lots of people and I date from these experiences or make a new buddy. Why not? To answer your question: escape self for a change which is very difficult. Give people the same benefit of the doubt that you would want for yourself. Give people and yourself a chance. Personality is very much so individual and its not all that compatible everywhere. You like some people. You dislike others. If you are a extreme introvert, good luck dating. It must be a nightmare unless of course, you won the genetic lottery. What is your end game? If there is a reason to suddenly connect with people, by all means but, why the sudden change is what I want to know? I was a extreme introvert too. I wanted more friends and I wanted to get a little gf. Sitting alone in my little bubble was safe and secure but, it wasn't making me happy so, I started to make changes. I stopped caring about what to say and I just open my mouth and see what happens. I can mental masturbate all I want but, the sec I start talking, you see how people reciprocate. You see if a woman is actually someone I want to spend time with. I can see if a guy would be a cool bud to workout or party with.

+ 1 At the risk of sounding sexist, I thought TS was a woman. A lot of women think it doesn't matter so, large student loans in absurd career paths like liberal arts/social science/women studies etc. Things like even visa card or silly spending sprees. Little care or reason to because some beta provider will pay for it. I've spent quite a bit of time of the education system and I am absolutely disgusted by the approach to men, to young men, and the perspective people have. I watched in my college years the grading system lowered for women. The opportunities provided were just freely pedaled to the women. Many of the times, women in the workplace would do drop classes in attempt to pull prospects. Seems like a smart idea. Well, wherever there was a discrepancy with male to female career paths (engineering for instance), the best opportunities were pushed to women freely. In paths that were heavily influenced by female choice, even what few males were in the program were pushed toward more women without a thought. The bubble is breaking and I think more women need to be educated on the importance of math, personal financing, and economics etc. Debt is a scary thing and with freebie student loans for absurd career paths, you cannot declare bankruptcy so, young people are getting fucked over. There futures in ruins and they cannot escape it. They are shackled to the low paying jobs that await.

IMHO, I think Stefan and others like Milo and Jordan Peterson (among many others) need to red pill the shit out of women. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Its women that are fed victimhood, affirmative action, and are the ones to resort to large government. Women are the ones running the education system and are really fucking it up. I hate to be a troubled young little boy in the current education system. Everything he does is demonized. Furthermore, he is expected to sit down and stfu in a environment that panders one way. Its pretty messed up. A buddy of mine has a finance who is a ECE. She told my buddy that the children are not allowed to doing anything competitive like even play board games or anything where there is a loser. Its pretty messed up.

MGTOW avoid women mostly or have causal FWBs. Avoid government state marriages.

I had a argument on a message board with a woman. She is 30 + who spent her best years being a booty call rather then settling down and lock down a good man. She now spends her days with cats and egg freezing threads on reddit. This is what feminism brings. It leaves women more and more unhappy and these so called experts are promoting stupidity.

Checkout the channel Julienhimself. The guy is a bit controversial with his ideas and approach to dating. Still, it is very much so polarizing. Currently, he is doing this transformation program. He depicts a lot of the issues with human nature. Subtle little things in each and everyone of us that we try to resist. I am learning but, I noticed a few things and I will share if you are open to listening. You said, "window is closing." The thing is, its not the Superbowl. There are other girls. You see troll videos where a girl rejects a guy and he yells out, "Come back. YOUR MY LAST CHANCE AT TRUE LOVE." He is trolling like the prankster Vitaly. Its funny so, you play it safe, try to protect your ego, your self-concept, and identity at the cost of putting your best foot forward. Ironic, the next male who simply doesn't give a damn will hit on her, bang her out, and not call. Meanwhile, you are all into cherish mode. RSDTyler talks a lot about it. About people going there whole life and chasing phantoms. Don't chase the girl. Chase yourself. Chase being your best self. Have you tried meditation? Yoga? Even apps like headspace or calm? There is a book on 5 daily habits. I think it could help. Do you exercise? How is your diet? Do you read? Finally, approach lots of women. Talk. See who you connect with. Acquire number. Date. Do coffee or dinner. that or better yet, hookup casually. Repeat. I am doing this all the time wherever I go. It could be a convenience store, sushi, grocery shopping, coffee shops, the gym, bar or club. Its not easy but, what is the option or alternative? You want the girl? Lose the the batting average. Drop the ego of trying to preserve self and this little identity you are protecting. I get rejected. I have been flaked on. I have had weird experiences with girls. What other choices do we have as a man?

Nice post. Agreed. If you think of the pillars of health, wellness, and fitness, you have exercise, diet, sleep, and rest. Its like a table. Without the legs, it falls down.

They can go fuck themselves. I am still going to approach. I am just more chill about it. Instead of asking a woman out, I will just be casual about things, and keep it as such. I do to as does Stefan but, it is not a solution to the problem of female crazy. Its like, well, sexual market value has plummeted or a woman just hit the wall. Not she is putting on the good girl act and "isn't like that anymore." She isn't going home with alphas or running through playboys anymore. No. Its not maturity. Its that the alphas and playboys are now banging the hotter younger women. The same applies here. The welfare state failing so, women fallback on men, on going back to the kitchen and sandwich making means shit since it is pretentious. It is not real. It is not her nature. There is a identity of crisis. If not for war or a zombie apocalypse, women don't need a man until, whoops, now she does. If there was a breakout of refugees here the way of Germany, women and feminists voted it in here in the west, I wont be there going down on my shield to protect the women. I would be there for my mom, my family, wife, and children plus friends. Not this Woman's March manipulative absurdity. I want a solution but, the parade of free money ending because the government failed is not the answer. This would mean they would starve and genes are weeded out of the existence. Women would change out of necessity. Now, finding a woman of substance is extremely tough so, men suggest to red pill her or hope to find one who has unplugged from the Matrix. In approaching lots of women, I cannot describe how challenging it is, how gross the dating pool is but, what other alternative does a man have? So I continue to approach. Online is a cesspool of single moms and sloots. In approach, there is an abundance of liberal, democratic, lieftist, SJW women. Absurd kill count. Will soon be posting on reddit in egg freezing threads and throwing cats in her old age. Its never self ownership. Its always female victimhood. Approaching is time consuming and yield is obnoxious more times then not.

I love and listen to FDR/Stefan religiously. No matter how long or absurd length of time, i listen. I am tuned in. A similar theme I notice is that, Stefan points out to a problem which is quite evident even if it goes to deaf ears amongst the mainstream media. Still, I feel like Stefan fails to point out to a solution. For example, the single mother victimhood, the prey and spray, jump of generation of women, children out of wedlock, sloot gonna sloot, and Stefan's solution is basically; wait for the state to fail. So, a woman then needs a man because the parade of free money and government welfare state runs dry. This is not a solution. Nor an ideal way to find a good mate, wife, mother of my future children. Similarly, you point out the problem and I completely agree with you but, I fail to see your solution? Or are you coming in seek of an answer? Is it all ironic? We see how society and mainstream media demonizes man. Man is putz shamed, made to look stupid, being cucked is promoted on tv or in hollywood movies, and being a limp dick is the place of man in society. The aftermath is neo-masculinity, pua, Julien Blanc. WHen you snub and trash masculine behavior, it comes back with a bite. The same is with radical feminism. It is a counter balance. The most ironic part is that, women despite everything are so fucking unhappy. They want the top 1% percent of man. This is female hypergamy. She cannot find that because they are so few and far between. Most importantly, it is a monopoly that the dude owns. I see a problem to but I cannot escape the reality. Marriage is a nightmare for men. Dating is rotten. The majority of women are liberal, are adverse to competition, perpetrator one money, female victimhood the next. I came here because I want to explore my consciousness; continue as a free thinker, seek self knowledge, self awareness, and start a family one day. The problem is that, it is an absolute mess. The nuclear family is in ruins. Women think it is cool to sloot gonna sloot. its ok because some cuck will still marry her and raise her kids allocating his resources to fix her problems. I am going to stake my claim in the free market and dating world. I will approach a lot of women. I will take numbers, I will get rejected, and flaked but I will date, bang, and through this process, I will meet someone idea or I never will. Regardless, I wont look back and regret not taking a chance.

youtube RSDTyler Its all a numbers game. Talk to lots of women. You will acquire digits, dates, sex. Who and what you think they are differs significantly then who she actually is. Usually, more times then not, you are disappointed. The good girl act is an act. The same good girl next door is spreading when the alpha comes. Many of which lead to single mother victimhood. Pardon my cynicism. The experience of meeting, approaching, and dating lots of women speaks for itself. My advice: Be loud. Be bold. Be brave. Stake your claim. Don't ask her out. Make small talk. Tell her where you are going then send the invite casually. Keep it social. If she is coming, let it play. if she doesn't, pursue approaching other girls. Just live and learn.

Awesome video. I think Stefan needs more of these current real world videos aimed at the youth, free thinking, self-knowledge, self-awareness, and self-exploration. The college bubble is a bone yard. It is dated. It is useless. A waste of time unless in a particular field like dentistry, doctor, surgeon, etc. If I had to do over, I likely would have looked into doing something different when I was a teen, like start a business, something basic, and gained insight there no matter what came of it. I have a pretty diverse skill set but, I wish I had adopted a more entrepreneur mindset. Since being a kid, I came up through a government based education system that promoted adversity to competition, to be a employee, to work hourly in a bush league manner, and be poor. If you work as a employee, you trade time for money, you will never be rich. I also notice, everyone gunning for a six figure job, the few lucky to acquire this are beaten down. That employer is getting their moneys worth in blood lol If I had to do over again, I likely would have taken the thousands I spent to go to college, placed it in a business, and staked my claim in the free market.

there are a lot of dudes brain washed by single mother victimhood, social conditioning, female logic, and a society that promotes men being a cuck. It matters. Raising some man's baby, allocating your resources to plummeted sexual market value, and settling with a woman who in her best day never gave you the time a day. What sort of spineless man settles down with that? TS, At 1 kill, you aren't doing bad. Needless to say, women lie about that shit all the time. Be warned. Didn't get off and she wont count it or some other form of female logic.

I could be mistaken but, I knew from a young age, a significant portion of women were leftist, were pro choice, sloot gonna sloot, and dedicated to squandering their youth. It blows me away. I met a chick off tinder. Late twenty something. She was a jump off. I have friends who date a lot and even really good guys get the same nonsense. I feel like if I wasn't mentally tough, I would be mgtow by now. I have several women in my life from the past that are single moms. Of course, they would do anything to get me back in their life but. they dropped the ball. They made their bed. They got to lie in it now. I thought there be more advice here with respect to this. I don't feel there is or I have not yet seen it. I have heard a lot of chatter that its easy or ok but, they have then gone onto contradict themselves. Approach a lot. Risk failure and rejection. There is no alternative. Take your chances. Stake a claim int he dating market like youd o the business world. Bet on yourself. Call all in.

The convo was about moralizing in a Stefan video. Were you on that video

I did. If you call out shaming language as manipulation which it is, then, you use it as an argument, this is not only a contradiction but, a prime example of hypocrisy. It is a flaw if you call out women and feminism for the use of shaming language, moralizing, and the use of manipulation only to then use it. call it insulting if you must. Women feel insulted by being called sluts but, if she is one, I wont shy away from calling it like it is. PUA call in episode. Stefan is correct no doubt on the nuclear family, on the date and science behind monogamous relationships, marriage etc. What I am saying is that, there is no alternative but to approach, to put oneself out, and to meet people. The internet and online dating is one means of meeting but, it is a cesspool of sluts (by definition), single mothers, and women that have hit the wall. I think Stefan brings a lot of intelligent points but, I think with respect to dating, it is dated at best. Women are constantly bombarded by male attention IRL or online, social media, and online dating. Feminism 2.0 and the promotion of being a slut and or single mom seems to be the norm in 2017. Similarly, I agree with his points on government, on sex, on the left among a variety of other things. I tune in religiously. I see the problems too but so few issues. I do think the answer is bringing truth, reason, and evidence while not compromising one's integrity.

Sheeply ^^^^ Stefan is very critical of the left, of Hilary Clinton, single moms, promiscuity etc. as am I. He would be quick to call out your or I on our own contradictions or flawed logic. Following blindly shows your inability to free think for yourself. With that said, nothing left to talk about. Conversation is over.

Awesome post + 1 You still have responded to your inbox msg btw! Yeah, there are tons of mastermind groups across the globe. I am skeptical in general that some weasel is looking to swagger jack your idea so, I feel like a nondisclosure agreement should be brought lol or keep mouth shut on agenda. I think with vigor, you can meet a ton of good people, business partners, prospects, leads, dates, etc. if you just put it out there. With respect to networking for either business or social, I have met models (male and female), body builders, fitness gurus, real estate agents, club promoters, etc. There is no getting away from it. Recently, I networked with a young entrepreneur. She is pretty bad ass. Several years younger and she no doubt will be rich assuming she stays on course. There seems to be a ton of snake oil salesmen selling how to sell products whereas, someone like this who actually has the formula could put the product out but does not. Too busy selling her product. Quite frankly, I love it and I am learning a lot from her.

What if the answer wasn't to quit? You could have hired a local college student or new grad marketing major to generate new leads, offer salary + commision on sales. Allows you to do more of what you love. Basically, the business world seems to snub and shun the sales man but, the sales man does all the heavy lifting. They make absurd amounts of money because of their unique gift. Some have a great tool for it and it is a gift.

Read some Anthony Robbins or watch some of his youtube videos. I like and find him very inspiring. It gets beat to death but, you must make drastic fucking action in your life, learn, tweak, adjust, and come back at it again until you get the results you want in this life. Basically, it sounds like the biggest problem is fear. You go into a new situation, you are afraid, you kick off that fight or flight mechanism, and you either fight (make the approach or sales call) or you run (disengage). For me, I have different levels of fears so, for starters, when that fight or flight mechanism kicks off, I take drastic action. Let me explain. I fear being a employee forever so, I am doing everything I can to accumulate knowledge, self knowledge, education, explore my consciousness, and generate income so that I can be self employed. Also, when I work different jobs, I only take jobs whereby the skill sets I am acquiring are transferable else where in my own endeavors and thus makes me more marketable. Also, I am single. I fear being single forever so, when I see a beautiful woman, I approach. Needless to say, I get rejected and turned down quite a bit but, I also date a lot more, I have more sex, and hookups. It is still not easy. If I don't approach immediately, I will talk myself out or just bitch out. Furthermore, I am getting older too. Friends are getting married. People are having kids or busy with careers. Approaching people allows me the opportunity to network, to generate new leads, prospects, potential business partners, friends, and yes, dates. It is scary. Something I am learning to do is just embrace the fear and meet it head on. If you look at successful businesses like airbnb and uber, these are disruptions, and they save people time. If you make a pen that is better, more efficient, more value offered, and added, this is going to sell well. It will add value. You make money. It is win win. I know your plan is not the pen but, you just need to start taking action. A good read, "Tools for Titans," by Tim Ferris is a great read. The forward includes Arnold talking about someone coming up to him saying how "self made" he is. Arnold corrects him saying, "I stood on the shoulders of titans." We all get help. No idea is original. airbnb, uber, and fb, etc were all done before. The thing is we take ideas from everywhere and someone executes on the idea. They thread the needle and pull the trigger. you can too man. Please keep me posted on how your journey goes my friend. I am excited to hear more.

I have noticed that my guy friends have been who I grew up with not to mention the new friends I make regularly. With my lady friends, many have few friends, are catty with one another, and there is a lack of friendship on a long enough time line. I don't know why this is but it is what I seen be it in my workplace, in my social circle, and just been the experience I have seen. Also, in relationships, many girls just bail on their friends because of a bf and when it ends, they no longer have anything. As a guy, I make the time for my buddies and they do same for me. I think maybe going out more, extending more invites to other women, and just getting use to meeting new people would be a great start. Furthermore, reconnecting with old friends, a message online from a social media platform or a phone call you have held off making with an old friend. What have you got to lose?

Listen to the call in on the dude into pickup. No better example of moralizing then that right there. If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend you go watch it and then, post back with something of substance. mor·al·ize [ˈmôrəˌlīz] VERB comment on issues of right and wrong, typically with an unfounded air of superiority: "the self-righteous moralizing of his aunt was ringing in his ears"

There is content but it is very much so nuanced and far from the mainstream. As much as I like Stefan and FDR, when the topic of such content comes up, Stefan is up on his high horse and moralizing about it. The reality being that women are not waiting for marriage nor are men. Yes, the data definitely shows a alternative lifestyle but, there is a better way of attracting women then courting, buying a ring, and swearing away half your shit. It is okay in society on how to manipulate men. Look at the cover of any cosmo mag on how to seduce men. Public outrage would kick off if there was the same content for men. It is about as manipulative as the so called women march which again is to get the men engaged.