PatrickC

Hang on, wasn't it mothers day recently.. Ding!

Yes, I'm with dsayers on this. I think Bill Burr made a joke about motherhood being the toughest job in the world. Yea, like all that bending over the TV putting the next DVD into the tray. It's stuff like this nonsense that probably puts young women off motherhood and has been already mentioned. Stop with the self-aggrandising silliness. It's hardly like working in a coal mine or on an oil rig in the North Sea in December. I think anyone that had a lazy or neglectful mother would probably feel some righteous anger watching this tripe.

I think this is where I begin to doubt some of the claims made of 'Sex at Dawn'. Certainly well worth a read, from an historical and anthropological perspective. But it has been dubbed by many as the polygamists handbook. The industrial age of the past 200 years brought about enormous benefits with the advent of the nuclear family. Freeing up families to spend more time with each other. Providing children with a lot more nurturing and care. Children no longer have to work, as their families were able to sustain themselves and their children better. Later too wives would no longer need to work and when technology arrived that dispensed with many of the regular household chores, they were able to give more time to their children. It's only been in the last few decades that there has been an all out assault on the institution, by mainly leftist ideologues and gender benders. Making mothers feel inferior compared to other females with careers and comparing marriage to that of a prison. Many of those ideologues have leapt onto the narrative of this book and decided it was the nuclear family that wasn't allowing us to act out our true natures. Forgetting that monogamy had served us very well. Polygamous societies have mostly died out or are threadbare poor by comparison. On a funny aside, I cannot imagine how I would manage my time with two or more wives. That just has 'rolling pin' written all over it.

Nice one Ruben.. Chipping in can at the very least involve paying for your lunch, but seriously as Lians suggests? As an aside I will be in my hotel by 7.30pm on the 24th April.. Look forward to meeting you all. Take care now!

No offense taken.. and goodness knows, I have no wish to stop women being attractive to us chaps. Long may it continue..

My evolution is currently telling me I should engage with this young lady with the wonderful flowing locks.. Fortunately I am already taken..

It's funny, given the above response, because throughout your diatribe here on this thread, you have been constantly asserting you could judge (human) consciousness.

Yes, empathy not only informs you of where someone is at in reality. But yes, it can be a great guide to those that can distinguish between the more dysfunctional or functional person.. Our empathy is how we judge the world and the people around us in the moment.

Yes, but having 'empathy' makes you better equipped to recognise a dysfunctional person. It is in effect a two pronged sword in this regard.

This is the classic point at which people trip up over the long held belief that there is an 'is/ought' dichotomy. You ought not to steal from me, murder or rape me. Even, if I hold those expectations as true or at least 'desirable' in principle. I'm certain I can expect a universally similar return. Even from the most irrationally minded. On a (funny) teasing aside, Noesis, as the the philosophers 'siren'.. Well met! j/k And good catch dsayers.

Well the point is, that most people (at least in this conversation) have taken that first step. Or at the very least they know from experience (empathy) that they will experience very little traction with them. If someone points out to you logically that someone is mistreating you. It's not particularly up to the victim to point it out to the perpetrator. I mean, you might be given an opportunity, but is certainly isn't a 'must do'.

Bare in mind, we've not talking about people we meet and know on the periphery of our lives. Unreasonable people would be people either within our family or as friends and lovers that we proclaim to break bread with. Yet will show contempt for us, whether directly or indirectly. The reason people often don't get past point one, is not due to a lack of empathy or curiosity, but primarily because none is being offered in return.

You seemingly criticised yourself.. Unless I have no idea what you are saying, which is entirely plausible of course.

So rather than reputation judged by individuals, which can be easily usurped by self improvement.. Why not have 'collective' judgement.. Wait, doesn't that lead to tyranny?

A 'black mark!'.. Come now, since when didn't us anarchists take personal responsibility for our repuations?..

Ha!.. Well come on old chap you are probably the first and I strongly suspect is not a leftist wuss..

This is easy fella.. Point to me one post where anyone has complained about this expression. 'Sausgae fest' I mean.

Blaming it on the 'sausage fest', if that is what is happenning, is really to miss the point.. Notice also how most men on this board are entirely comfortable with the term 'sausage fest'.. Stark contrast to the often faux offence taken by others when it comes to anachronisms for the 'fairer' sex. This is a bleedin philosopy board, that can take the rough with the smooth, so long as it is consistant and defers to reality. Now pull those big boy/girl pant/ie/s up!..

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Yes, they knew. maybe not the details exactly. But they knew well enough.

One should always walk like an Egyptian.

I'll be honest jpahmad, I really have no idea what any of the above meant fella.

Welcome Saarl. Fellow artist painter here.. Your English was fine by the way. Curious here, what ideas do you want to promote after all the content you engorged yourself with here?.

Ha!.. PT you are welcome to some of my unsold stock. Frankly I could do with the extra living space.. That said they might not be your cup of 'lioness' tea of course..

Right, which is why I don't live in deepest darkest Africa of course and I protect my property from theft (as best I can) or the potential hungry lioness art critic.