Anuojat

How was i defending the current system? I was pointing out that you HAVE to use said corrupt system in order to survive as bussness currently. And that many people are deluded in thinking its actually good. And that those whom are actually corrupt or abusive are 100% dependant on the state. "Getting rid of the top level takers" How? Why? Because they participated in corrupt system? With guns or violance? Based on what you said about me being thief IF i choose to operate my company that i OWN trough a proxy and from distance... i can only guess that theres deeper issue goign on here since its it theft if its not initiation of force or unjustified threat thereof. Any of big bussness takers are vulnerable without the state and wahtever power you think they have economically is moot since if theyre good and honest bussnessmen they stay or have higher change of staying in theyre positions or atleast circles which is good. However if theyre the kind of people who relied on the state to get what they own, special pleads, subsedies, better deal for land and factories ect then in free market it doesnt matter what or how much they own since it will all fall apart because theyre whole base of operation will be cut down. And cant compete with me or you if we are honest bussness men. Also what workers labor is "worth" is subjective value. No engineer or doctor "deserves" to be paid more then 1000$/€ a month, its just what other people value those peoples labor at. If i bring down my workers wages i am not STEALING or violating anything unless theyre contract specified these things that i can and cant do.

I find that most "super rich" as you keep calling them are either A. Good hoenst hard working people that if they didnt try to bribe the state like others thousends of people would lose jobs and theyre bussness would lose "legs" as it were to either stand up at all of remain profitable. B. Rich whom are like but mistakenly believe the system CAN be fair "at times" whatever that means (thsi is in referance to Bill gates and his opinions on the govenrment) C. The kind whom without the guns of the state you thomsio could just walk up to and even suggest starting your own bank/oil company/electricity company/ ect. and they keel over in defeat. Since they rely SO heavily on the state to gain advantage that as you may know at this point lets the avoid things like being good boss and good honest people in general. They dont have to face societys negative consequences or failures. Were it not fo the guns for the state id start A DRO or an company that competes directly with the state and id wager eating my hat id do better than the governments "law" or "police" or "school" and i am not even that experienced in bussness. You could do even better i am sure Also they money is totally worthless and any new money or currency (gold bitcoin silver altcoins or others) would be invested to me and to you and every other honest bussness that CAN make profit without the violance of the State.

Two musics/songs come strikingly to mind: Other side of the mountain (Better known as "The day Mom died") Who am I?:

I ummm lift? Yeah... Not much but i do. Dont squat thought, not at all. Instead ill use captains chair and lift weights while lying down in bed/bench Does back reeeeeeal good

Well id say the FEAR is natural and expected, yet it is the very things that can paralyze. Hence why here in Finland there is an aura of skeptism and not AS bad idiot openness and naivete that has plaqued other European countrie ala the Multiculturism virus. But there are few thigns that give me relief and chief among them is the fact that these people all lie to themselves. Theyre not demons from hell of unspeakable monsters by "nature" theyve been raised and now believe in things that are false and bad for themselves and others. They lie to themselves. Fundamentally this gives me relief because it makes it SO painfully obvious after the paris attacks and rape statistcs that for every idiot leftist apologist for this immigration there is atleast 3 Muslims proving them wrong. And also i pity these people, ive seen the cynical, tired and scared faces on many older immgrants and also feelings of frustration among the younger ones who seem lost. Sense of direction in life for many young muslims/immigrant to be out of grasp. (This is from about 15-30 groups of such people in my area all from differant bakgrounds and countries and also from differant group appoaches to one another.) Many previously "foreigh" people take identity similiar to african americans even if they were originally from not america at all... even muslims and former muslims. I get the distinct sense that while such agression, rape and violance is inherited from the vile religion and antihuman bbeliefs of Islam and the not so rational cultures of Africa and middle east... i think many people coming are in search of identity even if they do GHETTOFY (and minority dont).

I think ive just started to see what ive already done... And that it is enough and focusing on my own happiness can will increase my capacity to help reason/world ahead on its way more than the... urgh, ever ugly and parastitc notion of SELF-SACRIFICE. You know this particular type of feeling and particular type of guilt/shame? Also becoming permanent donator to the person and group that kinda let me know of these anxiety layden realities may help since then i know i am always taking my candy and coke off the table for something greater

Yes i treat myself pretty differantly compared to others, but mainly i think theres been growing strenght in wanting to do bad things that bother me to others too. Like being ver paranoid about the muslims immigration situation here in Europe. The rapes the violance, crime and outright barbirism of so many muslims and middle easterners has made me weary to enjoy anything i do. And yet i dont try to paralyze anyone else with fear... yet. I know theres better way to work things out without detriment to my mental health yet i feel compelled to be afraid, slightly paranoid and in terror about it all... even as i know of a better more productive and useful way to counter productively these fears and concerns.

Id call this deflection and trying to find some "common" ground where to stick the arguement in so it doesnt seem as important or makes it seems like every concern is equally valid ect. What about X is subtle way of saying "well if X and Y are both bad then why focus on this one?" And thus is used to deflect and avoid a difficult subject.

Wouldnt it be better to call it "You cannot get the KNOWLEDGE of what IS without a method that accurately descrives and arrives at reality. And you OUGHT to use SAID method over other methods IF you want to accurately know/descrive what IS." What do you think of this? I was frustrated because i could see you and Dsayers disagreeing for waht i though was merely miscummucation of langue rather than logic.

"Taxation is the Prize WE pay for civilization." Implying that its voluntary and that there is a WE and also that State hold up civilization and society. Also on a personal level "Well you maybe believe that." "Thats YOUR philosofy/facts/reason ect." Implying that Stateism or Law is the foundation default position.

Hmm i am very curious about the down votes. If if either of you see this whom voted down please respond. Would be nice to get some feedback since i dont think i said i anything that indicates it couldnt change my mind or that was insulting.

But if this is the case why spend time on politics rather than philosofy or peaceful parenting or maybe even on why islam is so bad specifically "truth about islam" or "truth about multiculturism" ect. This talk of politics and trump (to the decree its talked about) has me concerned that stefan is ADVOCATING impliciply that "we" in the west should resist the muslim/third world refugees because how destructive they are to "our" culture. When in fact theyre not destructive to culture but to property rights, reason evidence and logic NOT culture. Culture is often used as umbrella term for tradition, religious beliefs, nationalism ect. Philosofy and peaceful parenting are universal and thus cannot be attributed to any "culture" expect insofar among which they historically developed. And whther or not Trump is dismantling the media or not (which i havent seen any evidence of jus tthat he challanging it) doesnt matter because we are still talking about statism and he is willing to use violance againts peaceful people. Politics will NOT set us free.

In Stefans recent discussions with Bill whittle and his numerious videos on immigration and Donald Trump, he has said some things that seem me to be either appealing to those in the fence on the right or implisidly advocating for State programs or even Donald trump himself. Now correct if i am wrong, but he has said that "we are at war with them" and that "youre squandering what youre forefathers fough and died for". He seems to me to have become more and more willing to implisidly promote if not endorse trump and the ideas that "western society" is something were all part of like a tribe. Which is i disagree with. We are all induviduals and should be judged so and advocating implicibly for any state policies would make one not an ancap. Forgive me if my concerns and fears are unfounded but for the last few months Stefan has been talking more and more about western culture and scoiety instead about peaceful parenting, philosofical deeper problems WHY there is this influx of muslims and also starting humbly from principles and NOT pushing these seemingly nationalistic and collectivist ideas. Has anyone else gotten this Implisiveness from his videos? Are my concerns unfounded?

If theyre disinterested in politics then surely they would not support the use of force againts you? Because if they claim to be disinterested and detached they CANNOT by defination be in favor or atleast be advocating policies/laws ect. Againts you. If they engage in personal preferance then you can point out that you would love to "just disagree" but cannot.

That is horrible. I am glad you got new phone number as fast as possible. And yeah ive lisened to these before and found them useful. However not quite as usefuk enough to solve what i am talking here. I think what holding me back is GUILT. That did give them right arguements, wasnt curious enough about them or theyre positions and that i didnt argue rationally enough and got too emotional when my parents fogged (especially mom) and made bad logically fallicious counterter points. That i should go back and try again better. And that if i do not my mom will just be confused aqnd sad and thats not just her acting up but me genuinelily not trying as well i could have as rational person. Not being curious enough too. As i wrote this, i realixed that i know what my moms likes are but remember very little what she said when i was kid AND that with father it was a connection on both so i think better slightly more rational dad draws my emphatic side in.

My parents arent going to theraphy, they arent paying for mine since mine is "free" bu they did give me some books 3 years age on self knowledge which was "slightly" helpful but not much. Besides this and the apologies i mentioned and the long talks. Nothing else comes to mind EXCEPT perhaps the fact that my sister is not in public school but in private one. Though still christian private school... About the quote: My mom was more along the lines of "i miss your babling" aka she seems to have missed my voice alone. She certainly wasnt paying attention to waht i spoke in the phone back then since she was supriced i was libertarian let alone an anarchist ect. And few other clues hint that it was more and more about me calling her. Not much similiarity to your experience since my parents understood that this was soemthign painful BUT something which was healthy for me... and for them too to get away from the parent child relationship and into adult-adult relationship. Ive beeing seeing psycologist. And recently (yesterday) we talked about self sacrifice and as it turn out yeah, ive been feeling things besides guilt and theyre ones of fear and anxiety about the mother who WAS but is no longer. My mom wont harm or attack me or "punish" me... not that she could of would anymore but yeah. Fear of my mom and dad abit when i was child had been lurking there. But progress abound since after posting this and seeing my psycologist/theraphist i feel more clarity about that fact that i. Dont really have desire to see my parents because we have nothing in common and theyre not people whos behavior has been one seeking restittion fully. Understanding they havew sought but beyond simply talking to me, not muhc atl all AND most importantly: I think and have pretty good hunch that my parents if they read this would feel and act according so sense of betrayal. Or false betrayal since i never did betray anyone. I know for sure my parents would be "hurt" and wouldnt see past feeling hurtness. "Ive apologized for you and ive talked with you so much, why dont you wanna see me? Is this not enough? I dont understand whats wrong with seeing me?" Comes to mind when i think of my parents now... A. Thanks, yeah been thinking about that alot, Especially since me and my theraphist/psycologist talked about concept and feeling of self sacrifice just yesterday. And it helped illuminate to me that, my parents needs from my past were tha lingering desire to change them... that iw as up to ME to somehow help them understand better and better... not them to think based on the 1-2 years of conversations we have already had. Not to mention when i became atheist 5 years ago... those conversations were there too. I feel that my parents do understand but dont wish to lisen fully what i have already explained to them. I would imagine that, as i dont contact them they will keep asking why wont i and waht should they do and what do i want... ALMOST as if theres something bothering me that just if we could get that chip off my shoulder then i would see them again. Trouble is for them that even if they were atheist and anarchists... i dont have much in common. In short, my parents i have littl in common and my childhood grievances and feelings have been adressed lukewarmly and only so-so which leaves very bad soggy taste in my mouth. It feels that my parents are willing to change but only if i talk and meet and greet them and every single time it feels like sandstoen on steel kinda progress. Sure i would as you say eventually get there, but lot of time would be used up and the very idea of me doign that makes me feel depressed and unmotivated to do ANYTHING productive in my life between our conversation as if the anticipation of the next meeting would drain my energy from the times INBETWEEN me meeting with them. B. Gotto re-read RTR first then Also, it was more that my mouther COULDNT find any reason beyond biology and history to stay with me. To talk to me. Beyond "How are you? What youve been doing? Are you well?" There was literally blank mind for her when i asked this... and last time we talked she didnt even mention this as if the whole conversation never happened. Feels sometimes i have to remind them about the reality that THEY dont even have any clue what or why theyre interested beyond biological ties.

Would lowering ones job performance and thus salary trough making workplace experience miserable be a threat then? Especially if the person knows and shows his willingless to unneccerily to boss you around or bemean you thus introducing distractions to workplace.

Well i know the apology took lot of work from me, and it was only after my digging my moms memories and sharing my feeling after while she "recalled" that i was neglected during high school and that yes i MAY have begun to feel neglected in daycare. She think i looked and acted fine and normal even if i felt really bad and sad inside. And she has apologized for the neglect in my school years and that also apologized that they didnt support me to become strong againts bullies but rather meek and apologetic and always pleasing. However, this apology came after my mother asked me what i was seeking from her. And i had to tell her that after all these things we have discussed apology would be expected and that she always seemed to slighter away and find some reason not to do so fully. "I regret" "i am sorry you felt that way" "i am sorry i didnt see" ectectect. Was waht she said in the begining of our conversation over a years ago... and once she even told me "i cannot apologize for that which i dont think i should say sorry for." So i think she was cornered with her own realization and this "recalling". And as to curiousity, my mother did once as if i felt like i wasnt allowed to be myself in theyre home and i with clenched teeth said yes. And that was ended by her saying that she needed to think about that. Also another time i was curious and asked her why did she wanted to see me beyond biological reason, was there anyhting about me OUTSIDE of being her son that interested HER. And she could figure out any reason. And last time we talked she just wanted to see me because she wanted to see me. I felt she was needy. Other times we talked she has always been curious as to WHY i want to tlak about these thigns and WHAT do i want from her, but she has never asked me how did i feel in school or daycare before i brought it up. "What specifically was so bad about your childhood?" and "What kind of optimal or preferable parents would you have wanted?" Maybe those are curious questions? But they only happen AFTER ive brough somethign up or if i am engaged in tlaking about my childhood, her "curiousity" always seems to be responce and the "hobbies, mood, work and friends" is what she asks before. I have this feeling that my parents are being nice to please me. Because before i would call them and tlak about all sorts of things in my life and in my head/mind. And they would only be sorta interested and sorta asking questions and making very soft generalized statements. But after i seperated and stopped calling them my mom called and told me "I kinda miss you calling and babbling to me." As if there was something about my voice that was pleasing not the context as much. Also what borthered me was that i wanted my parents to be either nice and rational or fullblown evil. This constant mix of seemingly "good" traits and bad ones made me decide yesterday that i would not see my parents. But this post i think is still relevant because part of me feels guilt or atleast like soemthing missing if i dont see them. Like as i "gave up too easily trying to bring reason and curioucity to them or gave up too soon for her to make move" and also that "I should see my parents because if i dont i never knew if better ways of explaining my feelings would have worked". And yes ive been honest about my feeligns with them. Why this idea of feelign that "Honesty is not enough and i should make them understand me, that its my job to give the RIGHT ways of sharing my feelings and the RIGHT way of using words so they understand and will act accordingly." Somehow as if though its either my job or i havent shared my feelings BETTER for them to change.

Hey Everyone. Been mulling over to pos this for a while here. So an issue has cropped up with my parents whom i have partially seperated from (seperate lives and cities and only connection is occasional phone calls and texting and coming and going sharing.) The issue is that i do not want to see my parents nor FEEL anything for my parents. Neither shame nor guilt for not seeing them or caring about them. Ive already had lot of honest conversation with them regarding my childhood and also my current beliefs. Also talked lot about reason, hobbies, use of logic and also other various aspect of myself and also about waht they do and think about these things. Also been asking and seeing waht they wanna do and waht they believe in and... It has ultimately resulted in me feeling terribly conflicted for couple of weeks. Where in my parents have apologized and said sorry for certain thigns but no other (like religious upbringing and downplaying it). Also my parents have been very mutualistic in sharing experiences from theyre childhood too but refuse same standarts for themselves as for me. So my parents seem to be honest and rational but only selectively, and they would like to meet with me and i dont, and yet i feel i should see them because theyve had several spots where honesty or apologies and regret lies. And yet i feel as if though this would be msitake and another way for my parents to keep me with them. 1-2 years we have been talking about this. And it seems to be in stalemate where i try to move on but then every time my parents call me i feel stifled and frozen in guilt and self dout. If i do not see my parents or talk to them they will not dout be sad/angry and this makes me uncomfortable because i feel that if they do then they have legitimate reason to do so because theyve apologizxed and lisened to my troubles with them. Also when i think about something happy or about my own future often my mind drifts towards my parents again. This is reall getting annoying and i hate it when parents are KINDA GOOD or SORTA OK instead full blown evil or good. This lack of clarity and droplets of reason and regrets from them is very confusing. For your information, my moms still religious and thinks she did the best she could. My dad is agnostic and think he couldhave been more honest with us about himself and his emotions. I have this sense that i could still turn them towards reason fully and get them to be better again and yet i feel thats not the case at the same time. Which is contradictionary.

Yup this will be exiting

A simple test is all thats needed. Do not try to influence children towards religion (but rather reason, evidence and logic) and we shall see if there indeed is any validity to it. Oh wait... we have already done that and it doesnt work. If it has to be taugh to children despite any evidence then it is WRONG. And not only is it wrong it is equally damaging as public shcool since to the children nto only is it presented as the truth but even in milder cases, children perceive theyre parents beliefs as subtle influences as the truth (for various reasons). Same for islam, same for christianity and so on... and the more subtle or seemingly "peaceful" indoctirnation it is the more it can seem like something natural that jsut comes to children universally. Which is ihghly dangerous because then parents faith will be hightened and blind spots and curiousity plugged out of the mind. And most important of all, the adult parent or adult will have the same level of subtlelty in theyre thinking. Same lack of curiousity in being wrong.

Welcome. And wow ALL of the books?

In the Koran the old text is supplemented by the new ones which are more violent and agressive. Also Many muslims use Hadith as guide and traditional reading. Which btw is so henious reading that even muhammed in several of its pages is disturbed by his followers.... but only for short while ofcourse.

Is it acceptable? I think you meant rationally cosistent with logic and reality. Also definations, Spiritual needs to be defined here.

I think honking a horn on my car it is not a violation. Because Stefans recent video. On less cynical note: I think dont be dick priniple applies her and also if someone acts within the boundarien of conveying information that is fine (like honkin horn wheh the lights green). However coming diretly to your face and yelling in your ear you have now performed differant action youre not here to use the sound as mean of hey you did or didnt do soemthing! AKA if theres something you did first or are voluntarily abiding to (like working ina factory or driving a car) however if the interaction is one where you didnt agree to aomething contractually or implicidly then it could be violation, Especially since we know human eardrum is not exactly made of strenest stuff. And it is up to the person making loud noises to KNOW this fact when conveying information.